January 2003 Google Update

The real deal.

[my3cents]

I am seeing no backlinks for yahoo or dmoz on www2 or www3, also serps are changing. Is this it?

[djgreg]

There is a difference in some keywords between www2 and google.de . For searchterm1 I get 9 Mil. results on www2 and 3 Mil on google.de

[kyr01]

Hi everyone, first message for me, so let me take this chance to tank everybody for the great information and help I found on this forum!
Judging from Italy, this update doesn't seem a real change. Our site didn't change PR and still comes out quite well for most keywords as it did the last month (this may sound boring, but I am quite happy with it...).
I noted that www-cw shows a cached page that is older than the versions on www, www2, www3 (those are all the same, but at least one week old, when the dance, I guess, wasn't even started yet). Is this the way www-cw is supposed to work?

[troels nybo nielsen]

Welcome to WebmasterWorld, kyr01

It seems that www-cw now is the only datacenter with the old index. This may among other things mean that www-cw will serve you a cache, that may be several weeks old. www3 and www2 should both give you the new index, while www from time to time may give you the old index from www-cw.

Don't put too much weight on the cache.

Yes, I think it is generally agreed that this was an undramatic update. Maybe partly because it seems that the new index to a large degree already was anticipated with small updates by freshbot.

[NickH]

Hi everyone,

My 6-week-old site has still not been deep-crawled. Last month it was deep-crawled on 4th January and ended up a PR0 (no external links at that point.) Am I right in thinking a PR0 site will be among the last to be deep-crawled? (My main page is now PR5 on www2 and www3, thanks to freshbot.)

Nick

[steveb]

your site has the last deep crawl to thank for its PR, not freshbot. The update reflects the deepcrawl the first week in january. You had no PR until now because you had never been through an update after being deepcrawled.

[werty]

for me this was a really dramatic dance...

before this i was in the index and had 0 placement in the first 10 serps. now i have the top 1-3 spots on page one.

thank you everyone here for the advice.

hopefully i can build out the site more and focus on some other keywords that i would like to hit.

[stuntdubl]

I got my first PR6 page.....wohoo!

[NickH]

steveb,

Thanks for your feedback. I'm amazed that my PR5 reflects the deepcrawl from the first week in January! I had only three links at that point: one from a PR7 shared among 20 links, and one from PR5 among 600, and one from PR5 among 35. Could that give me a PR5? How certain are we that PR is not influenced by freshbot activity throughout the month? Just curious...

Nick

[Idaho]

NickH
The PR7 link shared with 20 other links, by itself, would put you half the way to being a PR6.

[SubZeroGTS]

is the update finished yet? i see the new results on www.google.com now

[hurlimann]

Chill :)

[troels nybo nielsen]

Yep, www-cw has the new index now.

[namniboose]

I have a question: a couple of sites I am monitoring are still showing the titles and the cache hasn't changed (and I made changes weeks ago).

Does Google sometimes not re-index sites? If so, why would that be? (both are well-linked and have the correct robots metatags).

Or is the index still going on?

[hetzeld]

SubZeroGTS,

We still have different results between www, www2 and www3 here in France at this time. (using google.com, not google.fr)

Dan

[Guenni]

Is it possible that they are using the old index again?
my site was listet yesterday the first time with about 200 backlinks.
since today morning it is out of the index again and with the keyword i only find the pages i found 2 days ago.

it ist like this:
two days ago -> old index
yesterday -> new index
tody -> seems to be the old index again.

i am really getting nervous about this, is it normal or is it just me who is out of the index?

btw, i'm located in germany, but did the search from google.de as well as from www.**** in all 7 datacenters.

[Interent Yogi]

Its finisehed I think they kick the individual key word penalties right at the end. Can any one confirm these exist?

[hetzeld]

Guenni,

You're not the only one ;)
I have seen exactly the same "index swapping" with a new web site this morning.

Dan

[Guenni]

hetzeld,
thanks for the comment. but why could that happen? and when will i be reindexed, any suggestions about that?
is it possible that i have to wait for the next index? hope not, this would really not be good.
had really heavy traffic yesterday.

[hercules]

same problem here my website got a pagerank jump from 3 to 6 but is not listed for the keywords i want it to be listed.

i hope it will change

greetz Jan-Pieter

[hamster77]

This is my first post here so hello and stuff!

I'm getting really confused with the latest update. We had the latest titles, descriptions etc. on our sites showing on www2 since the dance started and several sites were listing higher than before. Last night though, everything reverted to what is was in last month's results. Has the dance finished now? If so where did all our new stuff go...?

[speda1]

It finished on 1/29.