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Update rating so far: "Eh"
Are the different SERPs that you are seeing returning different numbers of results? That was one of the things that convinced me that I was seeing different datasets instead of just bouncing SERPs.
teeceo.
Seeing new backlinks there
Same here, very recent by the looks of it.
Like under 7 days
Similar scenario here. 600+ before, 400+ now.
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added... interestingly, the january 20 and 21st pages that show backlinks do NOT show up in the serps for any search. I've not seen anything like that before. Just another aspect of the new Google I guess.
added... interestingly, the january 20 and 21st pages that show backlinks do NOT show up in the serps for any search. I've not seen anything like that before. Just another aspect of the new Google I guess.Do they show up for a site: -asdfg query?
No.
Also strangely, the link text of those links that show up as backlinks for those new pages does not show up for a site:domain.com linktext search. So... Google knows those links are there, knows the page is there, but is not showing the page itself nor any of the new text pointing to the page. The last part isn't strange by itself since we aren't seeing fresh tags right now, but it is a weird combo. Perhaps whenever we get fresh tags again the toolbar on that page will change from grey to white.
I've also had 2 new incoming links both from PR4 pages on other sites for over a month. Google still isn't showing these in the backwards links: how long should this usually take? And does this mean that my current PR isn't including these new inbound links because Google isn't showing them?
You can search for my site and the sites I'm linked from and Google returns you the page with my inbound link on it, it knows about it in its indexes as such.
Thanks..
#1 has a PR of 5.
I have to assume that there is more to come from this update.
Also - I've worked hard to get good relevant content on my site as well. The ranking sites currently are relatively low content sites. (low word count, keyword stuffed)
I did notice that several of the worse offenders have disappeared from the serps.
The ones that are gone have a lot of keyword repetitiveness (keyword keyword phrase similar keyword keyword 2 etc. - no punctuation), whereas the ones that are up right now have the keywords stuffed into small paragraphs (< 200 words on the page), lots of links to similar pages.
[edited by: nevetS at 6:48 am (utc) on Jan. 26, 2004]
It seems to me that text link from high PR pages are a little bit discounted.
Google isn't punishing sites because they are commercial, they are punishing them because they are SEOed. Google rewards sites that have natural non-SEOed inbound links. Let's face it... no one is going to link to your store or your page of affiliate links because they think it's a cool site worthy of linking to. Your high rankings were the result of SEO and not natural links.
How does Google know if your site is SEOed? Well, obviously the algorithm can't be perfect, so surely some SEOed sites slipped through, whil some non-SEOed sites where thrown out with the SEO bathwater.
I suspect that Google looks at fishy anchor text. Because anchor text and page rank are the the key determinants of the search results, Google has cracked down on SEOed links (but has ignored SEOed page rank).
SEOed links are identified as links from within your domain (that's easy enough to figure out), and also links from sites that have too close of a relationship to the site in question. Google can figure out this relationship based on the nature of the links, and penalize the anchor text in those links.
To "fix" the Google problem, all you have to do is remove ALL links between sites you control, and then you will no longer have any Google penalty, but probably most of you will still not have any visitors because without your artificial links, there really aren't much in the way of naturaal links... links that are done solely because the webmaster thinks your site is worthy, not because he's getting something out of it.
Google ranking like you said would deprive the small shop of the chance to compete against big ones, and in the end we have a monopoly of 3 or 4 big shops.
I don't want that, do you?
