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These results are so bad I think it is good, good in a sense it will drive people away from Google to other SE that have relative results. Going to really hurt in the short term.
Atleast for our market, there is no way anyone can argue the first pages has any relative results! Way to go Google.
Still to much Shopping.com, Dealtime, bizrate, epinions etc... in the searches. Looks good, but could be better.
Under two headings we are virtually the same for our main site. One of our small non-commercial information sites which has been #1 for it's key local term for over a year has disappeared off the first 3 pages.
It looks like the Florida filters have been expanded to new areas and that over the next 4 - 6 weeks we should see some re-adjustments.
It looks like the Florida filters have been expanded to new areas and that over the next 4 - 6 weeks we should see some re-adjustments.
I agree - looks like Florida, Part Two. Many of my sites that made it through Part One unscathed are now suffering the same fate as sites that tumbled in Part One. Looks like new keyword phrases being targeted.
Luckily, one site of mine that went MIA in Part One, that returned to its #1 position a couple of weeks ago, is still holding its position (for now at least) in this Part Two update. So the changes I made seem to work for both Parts.
I just cant believe that one my sites index pages has simply disappeared from the Serps - no changes to the page, not spam and in a non-competitive area :(
All of the other pages are still appearing where they should.
Is the answer to this not to have any pages in the Root directory?
if you would like to see which DCs www.google.com is getting the results from...
1) open MS-DOS Prompt window
2) type in - C:\WINDOWS>ping www.google.com (then hit enter) This will give you the server IP address. If you do this repeatedly, you will see it hop from server to server.
And then when a searcher types in 'difference between Russian and French pancakes' it still comes up with that page... regardless of the lack of specifically relevant textual content.
I wonder if that's precisely what google is trying to work towards now, but despite all the algo tweaks it seems to be missing the mark.
If I were a more paranoid type, I'd think Google had disabled the dns at the datacenters just to hide the progress of this 'update' from us. Good thing I'm not paranoid or anything...
Either way, the 'new', 'updated' results are on at least one of the datacenters (whether it's one we can see or not)
Well so much for content sites being rewarded - mine has completely disappeared from this set of search results for its major keyphrase. Pre-Florida it ranked number 8, post-Florida around 30ish, now nowhere (at least in the top 746 sites shown). No commercial content except Adsense. However, destination guides to other parts of the world are plentiful.
One of my important keyphrases slipped from #1 to #2, but a couple of others went up a few notches to #2, and my most important keyphrase is still #1. Random checks of other keyphrases that I track aren't showing any significant changes, although the overall effect seems positive for my destination-oriented travel information site.
One interesting thing is that my competitor at About.com, who usually ranks a little behind me, has slipped farther down in the listings. This leads me to wonder if the "network effect" of crosslinking between subdomains (such as widgets.about.com and whatsit.about.com) has been weakened slightly in this update. Or maybe PageRank's influence has been reduced even further.
BTW, I'm now seeing the 216.239.37.99 results on www.google.com.
Before we go any further, we need to make sure this is going to filter live for everyone.
(leave the philosophical discussions, the weather, your mother, how your neighbor is doing on serps, your 3page site roi values, and your optimization techniques for another thread please - this one is about an update or not.)
We have to answer that fundamental question first: "is it going live, and is this a real update or just some tecch play time"? Although everyone is wishing it to be real, I stil think this is just play time and probably won't go live.
I think what may have happened is that they know what is "live" on that IP address isn't the complete "solution" so they've hidden it until it is complete then it will be "global".
It may be "get to stage 14b" put to AOL to test usage and interaction. Then go to stage 28c implement on global .com which has more data and/or filters, then implement to the national sites.
? conjecture - yes but conjecture to answer the conjecture others have conjectured
enough conjecture? or should we just go out have a few beers and (try) to forget about it till the morrow.
As mentioned it seems as though there are 2 datacentrs sending new info that is similar but different.
[edited by: textex at 6:49 pm (utc) on Jan. 24, 2004]
Not looking good from my perspective, so I hope this is just the first step in the dance.
My concern is that G has been working on this on the datacenters behind the routers we cannot access via DNS, and now they are happy with it, and rolling it out. I do not know why else we would be seeing it, when they had it contained, and kinda hidden.
thumpcyc