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Did you know, just before a Tsunami strikes, the water level appears to go down a little before you see the wave?!
I think Google might be removing sites with nothing but referral ID links in them and no other true content related to the keyword in question.
What may be killing affiliate sites is duplicate content.
LOL, nicely stated.
MrSpeed:
I study my keyword results intensely. What I am seeing is real, whether it makes logical sense or not.
I am not referring to affiliate sites in the true meaning as you and I would know, but just your "average joe personal website" with a link out with a referral ID.
Those sites are gone for my keyword results.
All She Wants to do is Dance
(To the tune of "All She Wants to do is Dance" by Don Henley and brought to you by Gefilte and the Hoolinet)
They're roundin' up the freshbots
And putting them in a pen
and all she wants to do is dance, dance
Ain't seen the last update since I don't know when
And all she wants to do is dance
GoogleGuy acts as the local shrink
And all she wants to do is dance
They say it's unfair when their pagerink sinks
And all she wants to do is dance, dance, dance
Wild-eyed busted spammers who ain't afraid to lie
And all she wants to do is
All she wants to do is dance, dance
It's like romance
She cant feel the heat when webmasters meet
She brings you traffic
She brings your SERPs down
All she wants to do
All she wants to do is dance
Well the SEO's bugged the chatroom
In Forum Webmaster world
All she wants to do is dance, dance
They're sure they'll find the answers
If they can only hang around
All she wants to do is dance
But that won't keep Google
From playing a trick or two
And all she wants to do is dance, dance
She still gets all the traffic
And there's nothing they can do
And all she wants to do is dance
It's like romance
Well we barely made the forum
For the last update
As we feebly watched our pagerank
I could hear the freshbots shout they said
"Don't come back here newbie"
But If I ever do, I'll get more backlinks
Cause all she wants to do is dance
It's like romance
She can't feel the heat
When webmasters meet
She brings you traffic
She gets your SERPs down
All she wants to do
All she wants to do is dance
It's like romance
All she wants to do is dance
Not seeing any changes for my keywords yet, but I had a nice jump around the 10th so I'm hoping something similar can happen this time too. It seems a fair few of you are seeing changes anyway.
In particular I got a PR8 link 9 days ago, just a few links sharing the page, on the No.1 site for my main keyword and Freshbot's been pretty busy on my site as well. It's a paid text link but couldn't be more targeted to my site. Can I hope for a jump in SERPS fairly soon? I used to at least try to stay cool at update time, but now there's no update it's like a constant stream of update heebie-jeebies all the time!
Good luck,
Jeremy
A little like Brett said last week. Just hire a high school drop out to get you links all day.
Anyone else seeing this?
Interesting what you say, as that's pretty much what I do myself. I find good sites with lots of backlinks, and my brother (not a dropout, but he hasn't got a job right now) just gets all the email addresses and as much personalised info as he can, and then I send the mails. The result is No.200 pre-Dominic to No.20 July 10th for three major keywords ranging from 1.7 million to 50 million results, and I'm looking for top 10 soon, especially with this PR8 link thing. I put in the work to make a free, information-based, very high quality site that hopefully blows the competition away (in my unbiased opinion), but my progress concurs with your idea, it's the links that do it.
All the best,
Jeremy
anybody here work for ms.com and have access to their home page code? we have a proposition for you. hehe
www/www2/www3 game is old school now. unless an old timer can prove me wrong.
www/-sj/-fi/-zu/-ab/-cw/-dc/-ex/-va/-in is where the action is now....
Most of our best backlinks are from English sites.
Under searchterm keyword1/keywordEnglish we are #9 (98,000 results).
Under searchterm keywordSpanish/keyword1 we are #38 (74,200 results).
This is an excellent example of the inbound links text dominating.
page 3 to gone. page 3 to gone. page 3 to gone.... it's always been this way for us on this keyphrase. it's frustrating. it's maddening. but hey, it's google.
at least our rankings on the less popular terms in our business are staying strong. small consolation. and far less competitive words.
anybody else want to share their recent performance on these indexes as a group?
[edited by: Marcia at 3:02 pm (utc) on July 26, 2003]
Why hasn't this false alarm thread been locked yet? What a waste of everyones time.
Yankee: Stuff is happening. I see it (and love it! Thank you Google!).
I think it just depends on what your definition of an update is. In the past, it was usually a change in back links for a major site, such as Yahoo!, that marked the start of a dance. But things certainly have changed since April.
And again, as I reported last night; oddly, the results for my keyword are down another 10%.
Getting searches from Yahoo and Netscape.
Is this some sort of freshbot behavior or are the pages in the index for good?
There are no backlinks showing or PR in the bar.
I'm so confused!