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Well shoot howdy bubba. www -www2 - www3 sporadic.

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12:33 am on Jul 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Word on the street is that there are some strange stuff going on with the old www, www2, www3.

What do you think? Anything too all this? (bk link thingos for the hoo are the same...)

5:45 pm on July 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Don't agree. Things change EVERY DAY. On June 15th Yahoo backlinks changed. That will happen again, and when it does, that will be a REAL update, not like the ones you see daily.
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There is no "monthly" update. The Google Dance is dead.

I DARE DoubleG to say otherwise.

5:53 pm on July 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Yahoo had new backlinks on May 9th. Can somebody make a chart when Yahoo backlinks changed.

Maybe Google is going to a weekend rolling update. It seems like everyweekend something happens.

6:25 pm on July 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I think www-fi is the one to be watching, they have no fresh tags, content goes up to about July 23rd. I think they are priming that as a 'snapshot' for calculating PR and backlinks and that is what the 'update' will be.

Obviously this is not like the snapshots of old where all the stuff is a month out of date, they will be using a significant amount of data from just a few days ago. This strikes me as the next step towards the truly rolling updates. Most of us are seeing content being added every few days so that is no longer part of the main update thingy.

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This is not funny any more! It looks like Google banned some of my most important websites index page. Although they all still got their PR, the home page is gone!
www.mysite.com was ranked #2 for very competitive keyword is gone but its PR is still 5/10. There is no cached for the index page but Google still caching more then 400 pages from this site.
Same with mysite1.com, mysite2.com my site6.com. All were ranked #1-#3 for their phrases.
On the other hand mysite7.com was ranked #8 for its phrase, now ranked #1.
Is this is a new sick joke that the Google stuff are making for this month update? Sitting there and laughing when they read this thread.
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i've just put up a new site and am currently seeking links, as per your recommendations, all datacenters except -fi are showing the first link I requested, which was only added 2 days ago. Does that have any relevance? Hopefully not a too stupid a post - new to all this stuff, thanks for the great advice across the forum.
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i've just put up a new site and am currently seeking links, as per your recommendations, all datacenters except -fi are showing the first link I requested, which was only added 2 days ago. Does that have any relevance? Hopefully not a too stupid a post - new to all this stuff, thanks for the great advice across the forum.

You're seeing a new backlink to your site? In a link:domain.com search? Or some other method?

Sorry to doubt you but I'm sure we'd know by now if backlinks were being updated.

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I am also seeing a few new backlinks, but they all have fresh dates. Very strange and not at all like the norm.

perhaps Google is starting to add links on the fly as it ads pages?

Would be good if they could do the same with pr though.

Mack.

7:06 pm on July 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Olias:

"I think www-fi is the one to be watching, they have no fresh tags"

Fi is full of fresh tags.

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Dolemite - no sorry if that was misleading, I see the link if I search on domain.com - and now -fi has it as well. I've had another site up for months, with dmoz, zeal entries that shows nothing in link:www.domain.com, so I'm not holding my breath...
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Fi is full of fresh tags.

Those freshes on FI are new, they were not there an hour ago.

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I stand corrected
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[webmasterworld.com...]

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[edited by: Marcia at 11:12 pm (utc) on July 26, 2003]

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I'm having the same problems as dubilbul.
Only 2 pages from my site have been indexed, neither are the homepage. Only the URL has been indexed, not the contents. I see the PR hasn't changed for the other pages, so why is my homepage not indexed, or the pages following?

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I am having the same problem as dubilbul and markdij for a hobby site, dropped from 2nd page to 7th. Nevertheless, its internal pages (about 100) get a lot of hits from googlebot. Curious enough, since its first appearance in the SERP back in March it had never got a fresh tag up until a few days ago, on July 22. Now it is not even indexed anymore.
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Tis interesting is it not, that although Google are showing fresh tags, the back links are still out of whack. Many, many backlinks are so old that they ceased existing months ago - just try a few - find some where the domain is no longer available, and see when it expired / was renewed (snatched when they forgot to renew).
1:16 am on July 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Fi is full of fresh tags.

Okay, well there were no fresh tags when I posted, there are plenty now. That was my last post before going out for several beers - I figured I'd return to either a blaze or glory or a blaze of looking totally stupid. Sadly it is the latter.

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I was also out for several beers so at least we are both happy.
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turcu_mihai,

Maybe your site was not "fully" indexed. How many of your pages were indexed? Are any of your pages still indexed? Did/do you have a page rank?

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Whether this is an update, or not. Or whether or not there will ever be any such thing as proper dance ever again.... can we give this "situation" a name, please?

Because the 'hurricane naming system' that WebMasterWorld began applying to each update was the second best thing I liked about the google dance. (The thing I liked most was update itself).

Could anybody give an 'F'?

7:34 am on July 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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This is just freshbot.
There will be a dance soon.
9:48 pm on July 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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NeverHome,

Could anybody give an 'F'?

I wish I didn't give an "F" but I do. <chuckle>

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

8:01 am on July 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I have just had a sudden movement for a few of my sites that have been stagnating for 2 mths.They didn't have enough pr for attracting freshbot which suggests to me that some sort of update is occurring
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I'm with you cabbie. I see Google gyrating wildly - and even if it's not 'the real' dance, it still looks like damn fine shindig to me! Seeing as nobody seems to care much any more, and seeing as nobody seems give an 'F'. I hereby claim squatters rights [squat.freeserve.co.uk], and unofficially but ceremoniously name this the "Faust" update.
8:52 am on July 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Fwiw - We were updated over the weekend. This would be the third time our site has been updated (not freshed) since Esmerelda. This isn't fresh stuff, but rather additions to our site in terms of a new stable page bringing us traffic or an old page that existed in Google and been updated.


(for those tempted to ask me how I know it's not fresh, that maybe it's one of those 'freshdateless' fresh listings:
These pages are stable, in the serps, bringing us traffic. Everyday, no exerflux. AFAIK - this new Google rocks.)
10:39 am on July 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Yes. The Faust update is serving me well also.
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cabbie

"I have just had a sudden movement"

Have you been eating prunes?

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Well - some of my rankings really rock today

May the Faust be with us :)

5:19 pm on July 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I am actually seeing different results from each data center. On -fi we are not listed at all, and on -ab we moved up 3 pages. It almost seems like each data center is testing a different algo. The amount of non-relevent data on -fi for our keyphrase is really bad while on -ab the results are much better with less noise.(not just because we moved up)

Just a theory, but could the data centers be working on a spectrum with one data center showing any and all results for a key phrase, and then another data center on the other end of the spectrum eliminating all the waste. Each data center would have a different algo that for each end of the spectrum until it hits the middle. The data center in the middle could be the main index.

I am still somewhat new to this, so I apologize if this sounds way off base.

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GoogleGuy promised us one last dance but it is beginning to look unlikely. The question now is when will the PRs be reset.
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