AdSense Disabling Arbitrage Accounts by June 1st

[Freddy81]

They told me my account will be disabled at 1st June, and also added that I'll receive payment for all outstanding earnings in accordance with the standard AdSense payment schedule.

For this day (17 May), does it mean that they will pay for April 1-30 earnings, or for May (1-18) also?

[europeforvisitors]

If little old me has had one running for years now then surely a company with a few more resources than I have could have done it as well.

1) We don't know how well your MFA detector works.

2) Unlike you, Google has to think about collateral damage.

Still, if you've got an easy and foolproof solution, maybe you should market it to Google. Google is buying lots of startup companies these days. :-)

[justageek]

It's not about how well one works or not it's about actually just building it and when.

I can't sell anything to Google...they already took it all :-)

JAG

[need2bdiscreet]

This is an interesting thread to read – I totally agree with europeforvisitors post earlier.

For everyone who has a real issue with Arbitrage - where do you think your revenue on your website came from? People came to our sites from yours and the only way they came to our sites is by us paying you money. Now that we are gone let’s all hope that the other “Real Advertisers” have good ad copy, relevant keywords, or dare I say are in your genre. If you were talking about Ringtones on your blog and guess what all your revenues were coming from Arbitrageurs then when you get PSA’s or Blank Ads or your CTR drops think twice about how you feel about us.

Google does not have to worry because they make their money hand over fist from the Ads running on their properties. Do you think Google Smart Prices their own sites? Do you think Google is going to show PSA’s on their own sites? Google get’s the inventory first and what is left over is for the premier publishers, (https://adwords.google.com/select/afc/partners.html) and then after that it is for the independents. So the question you need to ask yourself is where are you on the Ad supply food chain? Are you About.com or the New York Times? if not then maybe just maybe you will not have as much inventory to show on your site.

For every gimmy there is a gotcha and the fact that we are not pumping effectively millions of dollars into the Adwords system is not such a good thing for everyone. Adwords Arbitrage ends June 1st check your revenues for June and see if everything is still on track. I predict you are going to see a dip in your revenues – only time will tell.

Careful with the hating – I don’t know of a single Arbitrager that hates the independent publishers – and we all paid you money to have people click on our ads.

That’s my two cents.

[farmboy]

Maybe Google will offer the MFA sites the opportunity to stay with the program but show only PPA ads, not PPC ads.

The advertisers wouldn't have a reason to complain and all that high quality traffic generated by MFA's is certain to convert well and earn the MFA publisher lots of money.

FarmBoy

[DamonHD]

We've had several arbs on this thread clearly regarding the non-arbs as suckers with 'cute' little sites.

A little less smugness/bitterness all round might be useful.

Rgds

Damon

[callivert]

Business is business and it made them money. Simple as that.

That's about as plausible as saying that they turn a blind eye to click fraud because it "makes them money." Which is to say, it's not plausible at all, unless they have a corporate culture modeled on Enron.
It's a well known psychological principle that you see in others the values that you yourself hold.

[farmboy]

Careful with the hating – I don’t know of a single Arbitrager that hates the independent publishers – and we all paid you money to have people click on our ads.

Hate? That's a strong word. Who said anythng about hating?

Disrespect. Now there's an appropriate word. When someone writes a misleading ad and puts it out there for display on the sites of publishers, that's disrespect.

And the fact that a publisher earns a little money from the click while at the same time frustrating a valued visitor doesn't make it OK.

Excuse me if I'm not gracious for what I earned from the click to your site, considering what it cost me.

FarmBoy

[RonS]

I hate MFAs, but I have to pose a question...

What's the big difference between an MFA site ...

and

AdLinks results pages?

They both show nothing but AdSense ads on the landing page, have no navigation out other than through the ads or the back button, both buy AdWords traffic from content sites by using little text ads clearly marked as ads, frequently with misleading text...

The differences?
1) The publisher of the site isn't complaining, because s/he is getting cut in on the MFA take
2) Google hates the competition for it's MFAs? LOL

Now I'm thinking I should remove AdLinks.

[farmboy]

...when you get PSA’s or Blank Ads or your CTR drops think twice about how you feel about us.

I think people have been showing how they "feel" when they sacrificed a few pennies and put you in their blocked filter.

If a moderator had not already posted a warning about personal attack posts in this thread, I think a number of publishers would be very clear in explaing EXACTLY how they feel.

FarmBoy

[callivert]

What's the big difference between an MFA site and AdLinks results pages?

In all seriousness, I have wondered about the user experience with adlinks myself. This is why I don't have them on my site. But the value of adlinks to advertisers and/or the end user is probably a topic for a separate thread :-)

[edited by: callivert at 8:09 pm (utc) on May 24, 2007]