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Earlier someone warned that one of the question could be seen as looking for a new angle. Duh. Are the thought-police on patrol?
I made the earlier remark. The term "though police" refers to someone or some organization trying to restrict or control the thoughts of others. No one has done that or is trying to do that.
Of course I want to know what the angles are and where the edges are. This isn't my weekend hobby. That doesn't mean I will move right up to that edge. But if I am very much farther away from it than the rest of you, I'm toast.
It's been written about a zillion times on this board but I guess some people still don't understand.
Misleading ads, ads that lead to pages full of ads, etc. had a negative impact on other people - publishers and advertisers.
Google is apparently finally taking action and they are reportedly being nice about it this time. The next time, whatever constitutes life on the edge might not be dealt with in a nice manner.
There are a lot of people who don't do business near the edge, don't do things that negatively impact others, don't simply do this as a "weekend hobby" and they aren't toast. Plus they sleep well at night knowing they aren't going to get one of the dreaded Google email messages.
FarmBoy
I don't know that the arbit crowd realized the damage they could do to Google Adsense or Google in general when they started doing their thing.
I don't think they care about Google AdSense, Google in general or the other publishers and advertisers involved. As long as that monthly AdSense deposit was made into their bank account, everything else was of minor importance.
FarmBoy
Seems like a bunch of teenagers running scattered-brained high on coca cola.
One group is saying lets kill this site - too many ads for the amount of content and the other group saying the opposite.
Ok EFV, I'm ready, smack me.
But let's not confuse issues, MFA is not only about no content and many adblock, it is the advertising those pages on AdWords and on our pages bit that fried their proverbial goose.
Why does Google keep asking me to put more and more ad blocks on pages? Does google talk to itself?
You could just as easily ask why AdSense was launched in a way that made life more difficult for the Google Search team, or why departments of companies with in-house ad agencies hire outside agencies. In large companies, different groups have different goals, and employees of are judged by different criteria--at least until top-down Stalinesque discipline comes back into fashion.
Anyway, as Hobbs suggests, this thread is about MFAs and arbitrage, not how many ad units are on a page. No one has reported being bounced from AdSense for using too many ad units, which isn't to say that there isn't value in exercising self-restraint.
They have no TOS reason for removal, no moral "do no evil" make the web a better place scenario....simply money driven.
The following is from the AdSense Program Policies:
No Google ad may be placed on pages published specifically for the purpose of showing ads, whether or not the page content is relevant.
A site that has nothing but AdSense ads and links to more pages of AdSense ads clearly was "published specifically for the purpose of showing ads" and thus provides a Program Policies reason for removal.
FarmBoy
Way back in this discussion I suggested that Google was removing these sites because they viewed them as competition for their own network. By removing these sites Google expects more users to click via their site (at 100% return) for information.
But users were already clicking on AdWords. (How do you think those users were getting to the click-arbitrage sites?)
What's more, in some cases, eliminating MFAs from the mix will mean fewer AdWords (or even no AdWords) on Google SERPs, which will make it even more likely that users will click on organic search results, not AdWords.
In any case, what's the point in speculating about Google's motives in disabling arbitrageurs' accounts? Those motives aren't important, except to those who enjoy the taste of sour grapes. What is important is the effect on publishers and advertisers.