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Seriously, how would they detect this? Does the adsense code collect referrer information? Granted they could, but *do* they? I'm sure a lot of people have analyzed the living daylights out of this piece of javascript.
I wonder if those that got the letter for cross-engine traffic where at some time in the past using adwords to drive traffic to the site. Google may not care about timing -- The fact that a site used adwords at some point and adsense at some point may be all they care about - regardless of overlap.
Anyone here got the letter and never used adwords to drive traffic to the site? - even if adsense was not implemented at the time.
If they are disabling your Adsense account based on arbitrage, are they disabling your Adwords account as well?
You know what I've been trying to guess from the comments if it is so, but I think the adwords account is not canceled.
Actually, in normal banning cases the adwords account for the same user are not canceled.
If that is true then it seems that Google is nosier than I thought. How naive of me.It's okay to "be evil" I guess, as long as you fight on side of the angels *sarcasm*.
What's evil about detecting and neutralizing click arbitrage? Google has as much right to defend its interests as we do to defend ours.
I was under the impression that MFA sites are being targeted with *some* arbitrage sites being hit as 'collateral damage'. For example, shoemoney apparently does arbitrage and he's not having a problem.
Note that I'm neutral in this other than having seen a drop in $ per click, and a drop in advertisers, on my site starting in January of this year. I had no idea what arbitrage sites were, but I know what MFA sites are. I never thought much about any of this until noticing this thread when it started, except that it has appeared to me that Google searches have been declining in relevance (or appear to be for me) in large part because of so many MFA sites.
I have noticed a significant increase in visitors to my site since Monday. That could be coincidence and probably is, but I've also noticed a whole bunch of new/different advertisements coming up on my site and a small increase in $ per click.
Could something bigger than we are discussing in this thread be happening?
Something else is I've gotten a couple of 'good' emails from G over the last 2 months. I'd explain but you know the drill... "You promise not to reveal...." Has anyone else gotten 'good' emails lately?
Basicely MFA causes the content network revenue to tank because so very few advertisers are willing to either show ads there or pay more then a penny or two for them when they do.
Man, if MFA sites truly depress the overall content network revenue for honest publishers because of their dismal conversion rates, than MFA sites owners are really, really evil because to make their thousands a day, they're removing hundreds of thousands from the market.