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For this day (17 May), does it mean that they will pay for April 1-30 earnings, or for May (1-18) also?
If someone has a real interest in finding out what kind of content got banned then PM me and I will give you a link.
I just sent you a note.
I had original content written by professional freelance writers in the US and the major downfall of my site was that my pages were primarily single page fact sheets and I was using Adwords to drive traffic while I waited to get organic rankings. My articles were on average between 350 - 450 words.
Is it possible these hired writers were taking text from other sites and Google got a lot of copyright complaints which led to your account being closed?
FarmBoy
I did random audits and the writers understood the legal ramifications of stealing content. They were paid well for their work and in my opinion were very professional.
Sorry but I can no longer give out links – someone shared as there was a big spike from multiple I.P.’s so I cannot hand out any URL’s
I will answer questions – but that is about it.
To those that I have corresponded with and were sincere – I appreciate it and if you want more info I will try and help. To the one that leaked – and you know who you are because I do – you ruined it for everyone. The sites are offline now.
Good luck everyone and keep your nose clean.
Thanks
I've not been banned - and fingers crossed I won't. But I am all too well aware that sometimes you get scooped up in the net - and whilst we all are happy to rid the net of the useless one page three ad-block sites, it is not constructive to harp on and on about the pleasure others are seeing with this demise. We all know, we've all ranted and raved time and time again. Enough. Move on - learn from this - and share the experience so others don't try to to replicate the same.
I'm sorry that in your aim to help - it has caused you more problems.
No doubt, you will pick yourself up - perhaps have more faith in your own ability to write good content, and spring back into life.
Sorry but I can no longer give out links – someone shared as there was a big spike from multiple I.P.’s so I cannot hand out any URL’s...
If I had seen your offer to hand out URLs I would have removed it to save you the trouble.
It has been alleged that a few members of the AdSense forum have sabotaged sites they didn't approve of. Sorry someone abused your trust.
Never never place your URL in your profile unless it's something not connected to your real sites.
Never reveal your sites to anyone. Not even my friends know more than one or two sites. Discretion is of the essence. I have nothing to hide, but you never know what drooling twit will get hold of the information and do something evil with it.
[edited by: martinibuster at 1:18 am (utc) on May 24, 2007]
Never never place your URL in your profile unless it's something not connected to your real sites.Never reveal your sites to anyone. Not even my friends know more than one or two sites. Discretion is of the essence. I have nothing to hide, but you never know what drooling twit will get hold of the information and do something evil with it.
correct... and try not to piss off any drooling twits...
Hey! no personal attacks!
Apparently folks only attack fellow posters' websites on this forum - likely those MFA people or other cool dudes.
Synopsis:
It seems that the gist of this thread so far is that MFA sites are subject to having their adsense accounts disabled because Google having these sites in their content network is detrimental to their business model.
Basicely MFA causes the content network revenue to tank because so very few advertisers are willing to either show ads there or pay more then a penny or two for them when they do. Also the low ad bids makes adsense less appealing to real authority sites since the payout is so low.
The wholesale arbitrage crackdown:
Arbitrage sites represent a very high concentration of MFA sites so Google has decided to officially declare the arbitrage business model as incompatible with their own. Since the goal of these sites is to spend less on adwords than they collect from adsense, this will probably improve Google's bottom line.
Hence the recent emails. They seem to be careful not appear to pass judgment on a site's content ("friendly" sounding emails). But in evicting these sites they are taking out a large number of site that are depressing the revenue from the content network, collateral damage notwithstanding.
So arbitrage is now seen by Google as an easily identifiable footprint (computers can do it) that serves as a good-enough footprint for MFA sites.
More Targets to Come?
Going forward it looks like if there are any other footprints for the MFA site, these too will be declared as "incompatible business models". More friendly emails from Google.
So what would these footprints be. Perhaps I missed it (no thread search here) but most of the discussion is Adwords / Adsense arbitrage. Is Adsense arbitrage from other PPC engines in danger? Probably not for a while yet.
Provided they could automate detection of this cross-engine arbitrage (which might be difficult at best), my guess is that this would also serve to identify a high concentration of MFA sites. However, they would likely become entangled in legal issues fairly quickly (civil suites, not criminal) if they were to do a wholesale closure of these adsense accounts, since this would clobber the revenue for many of their competitors' PPC programs - at least in the short term.
The only way that detecting this footprint automatically might become feasible would for the SE's and PPC engines to form joint ventures to detect these types of site through information sharing etc. Provided they see it as being in their mutual interest Doesn't seem to likely right now. But keep an ear out - especially if Yahoo gets their act together somewhat.
So Google will probably continue work on their semantic algorithms to flag for human review or just outright detect the footprint of less sophisticated forms of content creation used on mass-produced MFA sites: nonsense markov generated text, inappropriate sysnonym replacement and the like.
So, I am betting that the cross-engine arbitrage is safe for the near future. Does anyone disagree? What other MFA footprints might be detectable?
So, I am betting that the cross-engine arbitrage is safe for the near future. Does anyone disagree?
I'm guessing that those that have already gotten their letter because if their cross-engine traffic would disagree. There is at least one report so far.
because if their cross-engine traffic would disagree.Sorry. I don't get your meaning. Is this some way for google to detect cross-engine arbitrage.
Does adsense figure this out from the referral info from other PPC engines? (I guess that's possible) Or are you talking about something else?
