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For this day (17 May), does it mean that they will pay for April 1-30 earnings, or for May (1-18) also?
I see most of those pesky psychics have quit showing up and filling my filter.
Did they foresee and predict their demise? You're right, they are scams. Lots of scams and schemes headed for the toilet swirl. The dreams of frustrated publishers are finally coming true.
p/g
I ask this because if they still show in search results, then searchers will still end up on those spam pages, but instead of Google getting the income, someone else will, and AdSense users will lose out aswell, albeit for the right reasons. However, AdSense users should also gain from better quality ads on their sites.
My issue is in the handling of the crackdown.
@ newsecular:
i will tell you an example from my work, which i think fits pretty well.
i do have a kind of widget guide where widget owners can suggest their widgets to show up on my website.
since my mebsite is designed to be a guide i have to do a selection for my users in order to show only the widgets which i think are best for my users.
so sometimes i get a feedback from a widget owner, why i have not chosen his suggested widget to appear on my guide.
in the past i've made the mistake to answer him out of friendlyness and a false service conception. the procedure is nearly always the same:
i would have to tell him, that i am a guide and do only show selected widgets to my users. after that it is sure that he asks why his widget wouldn't fit, because he naturally thinks that his widget is a good widget that fits.
then i would have to tell him why i have chosen not to show his widget. i would have to tell him, why his widgets are not "good enough" thereby divulging my secret criteria to him, which in effect is my business model from that i live off.
maybe he would ask what he could change with his widgets to fit, but who am i to tell him what to do. i won't do that, it's arrogant, it's not my job and it's time consuming. by looking at the widgets in my guide, he has to know how to do his widgets or simply accept the fact that i've not chosen him.
by now the widget owner mostly gets angry. the result is a lenghtly discussion which leads nowhere. in the end, both parties are extremely annoyed and estranged. they would have been better off if there wouldn't have been any feedback at all apart from that the widget owner looks on my website and recognizes, that i have not chosen him.
do you understand? in any case this is a rubbish situation, but it simply can't be solved to everyone's pleasure. google does it right. it's their business. no discussions.
guess they would do better if they would give publishers the right tools to filter/approve advertisers. For whatever (wrong) reason they are just giving tools to advertisers but no tools for publishers.
To use one of Google's favorite terms, that solution isn't "scalable." It's unlikely that most AdSense publishers spend as much time tweaking their domain filters as some of this forum's members do. (Heck, some of us in this forum don't spend time tweaking our domain filters.)
Providing an unlimited domain filter for publishers might help to discourage junk sites, and it may be offered one of these days (as it is on the advertiser side), but it wouldn't be a substitute for vigilance at Google's end--or for detailed statistics on where clicks are coming from, which advertisers will receive in the not too distant future.
some of us in this forum don't spend time tweaking our domain filters
Contrary to what has been advised, that we be kind to those being booted because we may learn from them, I believe that's nonsense. We already know roughly what they've done and how they did it. Simply put, they put up a bunch of sites or pages optimized for nothing other than to display ads and promoted those sites and pages with low-cost AdWords ads or other CPC traffic drivers.
The practical effect was to take food out of the mouths of honest publishers. Their actions are no different than a newspaper or magazine publisher who lies about their circulation figures - they harm the entire community.
These MFA/arbs put low-cost ads on YOUR sites and made money with higher-paying clicks on their sites. There's nothing to be learned from these types who are neither businesspeople nor reliably honest. They fall somewhere in between snake-oli salesmen and crooks, nothing worthwhile can be learned from them and we should all be happy that G has finally found it prudent to part ways with them.
I hope they smack their sites down to the bowels of the SERPs as well and eventually disable their Adwords accounts, their IPs and anything else that can keep these parasites off the internet.
Maybe I sound a little harsh, but judging by the words of the three most vocal of these on this thread, they aren't about to change or offer any tidbits of useful wisdom. They are, as a group, shrewd, snide, rude and resentful of not just Google, but most other publishers, whom they regard as fools.
For their sake, I hope they spent all of their ill-gotten gains or have gone largely into debt now with no way to pay it back. I wish them nothing but continued misery, as that's excactly what they've caused others and are now so richly deserving.
No personal attacks intended, but if the mods see fit to delete this post, so be it. I needed to vent after watching these sites and their owners wreak havoc on the internet and hard-working honest people.
It is all in you head, well sometimes in your inbox as well.
If you have a site about blue widgets and you block all your advertising competitors then who is left to advertise on your sites? No one.
Think about it...searcher people arn't going to advertise for what they want to buy so you are left with no ads at all.
I for one am glad this shake out has happened and it is long overdue.
Ann
I don't think arbitrage is the problem.As recently as January Brian Axe, Google AdSense Product Manager said that Google was not against arbitrage and in fact they respect it as a business model. Brian clarified more by saying Google's main concern is the user's experience.
It's probably the landing pages more than the arbitrage that Google has targeted.
I totally agree with this. I have a big list of arbitrage site, not only in my filter list. But some of these arbitrage sites are quality site with good information.
I'll check them all after June 1st and let you know if they're all still there.
