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Not sure if this should be in Google News or adwords. I guess this forum should really be the one for AdSense questions as it's about advertising.
Also, it seems that the site hangs in IE. Mozilla ( as usual ) works perfectly so use that.
Unlike the exising content targed ads you do not need 20 million visitors to put these ads on your site.
Has anybody come up with a simple table yet?
100,000 page impressions a months on average = $X
200,000 " " " " " = $Y
etc?
(Yes i know it varies from sector to sector but some gut feels would be interesting.)
- REPORTS AREN'T IN REAL TIME
When I surfed a few of my own pages, I checked my AdSense stats a few minutes later. No impressions registered. Hmm.
- GENERALLY EXCELLENT TARGETING AND COOL ADS
I am pleased overall with the ads being served! Though there are some inexplicable instances of wacky choices being made. I have one section on my blog about (surprise surprise) Blogging, and for some reason AdSense has decided to put all coffee ads there. Maybe they think that people who blog are often times up late and drinking coffee to fuel their habit? ;-)
- ACK... I WANT TARGET="_BLANK"!
In general, I have links to external sites from mine open in a new window, especially all affiliate links. Amazon.com finally wised up and let publishers select whether clicks on their ads would open up a new window or not. I'd really love to see Google do the same! I really hate having to make the choice: 20 cents, or keeping a visitor on my site? :¦
- WHAT EXACTLY IS THE DEFINITION OF "TEXT ADS"?
On the top of most of my pages (though not on my blog now where I've implemented AdSense), I have a little box that says, "Recommended by Adam:" followed by some custom-written text linking to an affiliate partner. For example, "Hey, Amazon.com is offering their new goodie boxes for free after rebate! _Get one now before_ before they're all gone!" These aren't served by an ad network. Do they still count as text ads? More specifically, is there a way I can officially learn whether it's permissible for me to keep these blurbs on top and still run skyscraper AdSense boxes?
- ON MINIMUM PAYOUTS: GOOGLE'S STANCE SHOULD BE REVISED
I can understand Google not wanting to pay to mail miniscule checks, but I'm not aware of ANY other entity that has a $100 minimum payout. Most firms I've done business with (as an affiliate / publisher) put a $50 or $75 minimum on check payout BUT offer a $10 or $25 payout by direct deposit, which I'm guessing is significantly cheaper for them. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if it's as little as 20% of the cost of mailing paper checks, which suggests that Google could set a direct deposit threshold of $20 and make folks happier :)
And hey, GoogleGuy, I know that we all appreciate you and other Google folks reading this topic! May I ask if you recommend any other avenues for the expression of suggestions regarding the AdSense program?
Just an FYI, my personal priority is the default ads. That is 99% of my concern and it would remove many of my other quibbles with the service.
It would also allow you to loosen up on some rules (like no placement on a "log in " page. Because you can always serve up a default.
If the default option is enabled and extensive (e.g. ability to specify several defaults and weighted campaigns) I would make all my efforts to monetize my sites revolve around AdSense.
I had a few other MINOR (by that I mean VERY MINOR!) suggestions:
1) Allow webmasters to define the background color of the table. I am designing a new site and have left out a place for a Google skyscraper because of design complications.
Since we are paid CPC it's not like we'll try to hide the links with a black background or anything.
2) Allow target="_blank". I personally would prefer to make less money and have the links open in a new window. Throughout my sites there is at least one consistent theme. External links open in a new window.
3) Allow us to provide a log in or cookie to spider areas that require that the visitor be logged in (this could be tricky).
4) Remove the "Ads by Google". That smacks of a banner exchange (except for the fact that everyone knows Google is no banner exchange).
If it is to stay we should be paid for clicks at the very least and ideally an affiliate commision.
5) The Ability to sell ads on our own sites. I would be happy to give Google a cut if:
a) Google handles the collection from the person buying the ads.
b) The ads can be used as default ads.
In any case, good work! After a day of testing it is by far the best ad network I have used. The qualms I have are whether it's better than all the others put together and if default ads are implemented that would not be an issue (I'd just serve up the other network's banners and skyscrapers through the AdSense default).
[edited by: cdkrg at 4:32 am (utc) on June 21, 2003]
Would you accept a fee for this? Fastclick charges $2.50 if you want a payment before you reach the payout threshold.
I personally liek the payout as it is.
This sounds like a way to drive traffic to my e-commerce clients. Too bad it's traffic from junk sites.
AdWords ads were showing up on some funky sites to begin with. This just opens the flood gates and will degrade the quality of the AdWords program.
But hey, it's news. Have fun with it.
> a) Google handles the collection from the person buying the ads.
> b) The ads can be used as default ads.
Yes, that's a SUPER idea, CDKRG! Let me tell you, I've been tempted to check out the text-ad exchange from FC (and, ahem, not Fast Company), but I refuse to enrich the coffers of a site and a Webmaster that I find generally repugnant.
I like Google, I like what they do, and even if it means a little less money for me, I'd like to support them over other players in the arena.
About ThatAdamGuy:
REAL TIME REPORTS...I think it's real time for a web process.
EXCELLENT TARGETING...Agree.
I WANT TARGET="_BLANK"!... Me too.
Direct deposit...Please, that would be great!
About cdkrg post:
Allow webmasters to define the background color of the table...Agree.
AdSense team...Congratulations!
GoogleGuy...Thank you!
This sounds like a way to drive traffic to my e-commerce clients. Too bad it's traffic from junk sites.
Hey, I'm just as concerned about sending traffic to junk sites. Fortunately, AdSense allows filtering of up to 200 URLs, so I can block e-commerce sites that don't meet my standards.
I think concerns about quality of sites and ads is overstated here.
There are few ad networks that can approach the subdued relevancy of Google advertising standards.
I'm not a Google phycophant but I think network quality is a missplaced knock on Google.
Can you see AdSense sites in the referer field when people click through ads?
