Update Jagger, Google Update Oct 18th, 2005

When can we expect a new PR update?

[jretzer]

Continued from here:
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Anyone have any guesses as to when we can expect a new systemwide PR update?

[davew999]

>>The top sites have been changing over the past week or so but how can a site with no tags rank so well?

Thanks for the info vBMechanic and McMohan.

Do you think its worth while removing these tags from my sites or maybe wait until Jagger is complete, to date i've always ranked very well with them?

[erny]

How about www.webmasterworld.com become the right place to report spam?(if Brett let us posting here the offending url's and the evidence of how they spaming and manipulating the SERPS)

[JuniorOptimizer]

" How about www.webmasterworld.com become the right place to report spam?(if Brett let us posting here the offending url's and the evidence of how they spaming and manipulating the SERPS) "

WebmasterWorld would become more boring than it already is ;)

[reseller]

thecityofgold2005

>>It's all about Google trying to establish trust in Webmasters.<<

Or what I call Collaboration Not Confrontation Policy

If Matt & Co wish us to cooperate in reporting spam, fine.. we shall do it. No white hat webmaster wish to see spam on the serps. In return, we expect our friends at the plex to handle reinclusion requests from our fellow masters whos site were hit by "collateral damage" in a speedy fair way .

[edited by: reseller at 12:13 pm (utc) on Oct. 28, 2005]

[Tinus]

With this reporting bussiness the forum is going to look like a forum of old boys nobody liked at primary school.
Can't we mail Google spamming techniques if they can't think of them themselves? If it needs manual work Google can hire some students or ex-webmasters.

[edited by: Tinus at 12:16 pm (utc) on Oct. 28, 2005]

[thecityofgold2005]

>>If Matt & Co wish us to cooperate in reporting spam, fine.. we shall do it. No white hat webmaster wish to see spam on the serps. In return, we expect our friends at the plex to handle reinclusions request from our fellow masters whos site were hit by "collateral damagein" in a speedy fair way . <<

reseller, I agree and I think this is what we'll see rolled out in the near future.

I think that Google has realised it's mistakes in not 'looking after' webmasters and in relying on pure algo search.

I can't remember what it was called right now but I remember reading something about a new way of submitting sites to Google. Like an expanded sitemap program. That would be great for me. Especially if it allowed feedback and perhaps even someone who would SHOCK HORROR! answer emails.

[g1smd]

>> Is Google going to do anything soon about the 302 redirects being applied to the target site? <<

You can do something right now. Make sure that you apply a 301 redirect from non-www to www on a per-page basis, and then add the <base href="http://www.domain.com/"> tag to all of your pages too.

Make sure you have no canonical URL issues with your main index page; that is a key point - and I am in the middle of an experiment that I think proves this point beyond doubt.

[edited by: g1smd at 12:22 pm (utc) on Oct. 28, 2005]

[Ankhenaton]

I think that Google has realised that it cannot stop spam through algo's / filters alone. By encouraging spam reports it is allowing human judgement a bigger role. And human judgement is always going to be better than algorithms at weeding out bad sites in the ever changing spam game.

First principle in AI as I see it is do not expect computers to be cleverer than people,

Second principle: Human make mistakes

Third: So will algos and their programmers [sometimes erronously clustered together with humans]

Forth: Google please give me more hits :-)

[djmick200]

"If Matt & Co wish us to cooperate in reporting spam, fine.. we shall do it. No white hat webmaster wish to see spam on the serps. In return, we expect our friends at the plex to handle reinclusion requests from our fellow masters whos site were hit by "collateral damage" in a speedy fair way . "

This sounds fair enough but will it happen? I hope so because then the help is two way - we help them they help us (and I don't mean anything OTT, in the least a personal email reply rather than an auto generated one).

Time will tell, or maybe GG could pass comment on this matter to clarify that it isn't all take with no give on Google's behalf.

[Freakindj]

Why be concerned about reporting spam

Google doesn’t even process the DMCA complaints filed to their office.

I’ve seen warz sites cloaked from google with PR 8 and a low 5 digit traffic score. Are the new results almost pure spam – sure are, but does google care, I don’t think so.

I am willing to bet google knows the resentment that is going to be generated by the proposed joining of Amazon.com and google.com It will be much like the general distrust Microsoft has for being such a large controlling corporation. I believe their coporate policy is changing from building the better mouse trap to max profit for this reason.

I am willing to bet they are going to lose the next generation of computer users too for these same reasons. People just don’t want to be controled