Update Jagger, Google Update Oct 18th, 2005

When can we expect a new PR update?

[jretzer]

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Anyone have any guesses as to when we can expect a new systemwide PR update?

[MLHmptn]

If google wanted to make a serious dent in spam or the motivation for spam, they would eliminate Adsense!

I agree 100% How true that AdSense has basically encouraged SPAM to the fullest extent!

Kinda hard to understand why Google wants SPAM out of their index when they are pretty much the ones that started it!

I couldn't agree more! Adsense was the worst dumbest concept fromt he get go! What could they have possibly been thinking.

They were only thinking $$$$. Realistically do any of you really think Google cares about SPAM?! They ENGINEERED it for hells sake!

[Yippee]

I agree with Ledfish in that G has become it's own biggest enemy. Whether it's Adsense or not is another issue. When you have a framework that not only generates billions in revenue, but also millions in profit, I would argue that is the culprit. Like a fellow poster said a few posts ago, G is a business that's out to make money. They create the fire and then it becomes damage control. Revenues/profits dictate the road to success from there on no matter who is in the way. I think this concept is better known as politics. You know the rest.

[edited by: Yippee at 4:16 am (utc) on Oct. 28, 2005]

[walkman]

>> I couldn't agree more! Adsense was the worst dumbest concept fromt he get go!

sure it is. Have you checked their stock price lately?

[Lorel]

Goodle Guy,

Is Google going to do anything soon about the 302 redirects being applied to the target site? I manage over 30 client sites and they are constantly getting hijacked. My clients and I have to spend toooo much time chasing them down and about 1/2 the time the owner/host refuses to respond. The old email for webmaster@google ... canonical url doesn't work any more either. Is there somewhere we can report these?

[programmingdesigns]

I have heard from another person who says they have a page with adsense and it has INCREASED their pageviews? Does google reward people who participate in the adsense program? I wouldn't believe so but can never be to sure from what this guy said.

[frup]

The Florida update was 2 years ago. At that time people were moaning and groaning about the end of Google, how Google is over, how all of their friends are stopping using it because the SERPs suck so bad, etc. etc. etc.

How has Google done in the past two years?

Childish sour grapes is nothing but childish sour grapes. Google is king. If you want to make money give Google what it wants. If you can't figure out what Google wants, then either get into another business or build your business without Google. But don't #*$! and whine about it either way.

[WebPixie]

Adsense is not the enemy and if G quit doing it someone else would be right behind them to take their place. At least G has some clout to keep control over quality of sites using adsense, should they ever decide to use it.

That's the issue. G doesn't seem reponsive in cleaning up bad adsense sites. I remember I was shocked when adsense first came out that I could just cut and paste the code and it was live. I couldn't believe there wasn't any reveiw. Well the all automated method of adsense has made them a lot of money, but it's also created a lot of headaches for them in dealing with spam in the SERPs.

Adsense is a good thing. G just needs to hire an adsense sheriff to clean up the lawlessnes.

[RunnerD]

Some how, I don't feel like google is sending me a blanket for christmas this year like they did a few years ago. They could care less about everyone now.

[MLHmptn]

That's the issue. G doesn't seem reponsive in cleaning up bad adsense sites. I remember I was shocked when adsense first came out that I could just cut and paste the code and it was live. I couldn't believe there wasn't any reveiw. Well the all automated method of adsense has made them a lot of money, but it's also created a lot of headaches for them in dealing with spam in the SERPs.

Quite ironic that Adwords sites have to be reviewed first but not Adsense?! Hmmm...Sour Grapes!? YES...Sour Grapes! Do as I say, not as I do!

Help Google combat SPAM!? How about Google combat their own damn SPAM! Let us find it for them?! Laugh! Review all of your Adsense sites Google and if their not a legitimate site cut them off! 90% of the SPAM is Adsense sites!

[Interent Yogi]

Just comparing a few top results between Yahoo and Google in one search I monitor

(Product Company Country)

Google had a 3 out of 10 actual relevance. Some sites were so far off the mark it is not funny. One site (mine is the only on with all the key words in the title tag in the top 10.) Also 1 site ( mine again )only had 2 of the key words. Most just the country nothing about the product or the word company.

So am being to wonder about the title tag and how much weight it has in the Jagger 2 algo?

Yahoo had 9 out of 10 relevance, 5 sites that had the complete key words in the title tag. 7 that had at least 2 key words.

I think that Jagger 3 may have a few more changes in store than we suspect. As I am sure that Google Does wants to deliver relevance. It HAS to do something as from what I see results are really compromised in some areas.

I was talking to a non webmaster client and they had actually noticed. After Jagger if Google doesn't sort it self out . I will still optimise for Google,( crazy not to at present) But take up Bretts suggestion and search with Pure Search [search.positiontech.com]for myself.