Update Jagger, Google Update Oct 18th, 2005

When can we expect a new PR update?

[jretzer]

Continued from here:
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Anyone have any guesses as to when we can expect a new systemwide PR update?

[thecityofgold2005]

Can I get something clarified by you specialists on here.
From reading threads on here, am I right in understanding that 'normal' search results are not a display of the results updated by Jagger?
BUT results showing in the various IP numbers given by you, are from servers that have been set aside to test the waters for the eventual 'live results' that will show after Jagger is completed.
Please reply politely, as I am a nice guy ;-)

As I understand it, when you search from google.com you actually get results from a randomly selected Google 'datacentre'. Rather sensibly Google has many datacentres all delivering results.

The dc's mentioned in this thread are showing new results and are being used by Google as a test. They are also live but only deliver a fraction of all Google searches.

As the new results spread onto more dcs, so the search results from google.com become more new.

There are about 6 dcs showing new results of which this one: 66.102.9.99 is the mother (was the first and has what I think are final jagger2 serps).

To complicate things, we will get jagger3 next week where the serps will flux again!

[thecityofgold2005]

Yikes... these are really nasty!

216.239.37.104

That dc hasn't setlled yet. It's giving me a mix of old and new serps.

[StriderUK]

My first post here. My site has been decimated by Jagger1 and there is no change with Jagger2. We offer a unique website which our users find very useful but if this doesn't turn around we will be in big trouble. I have no doubt Google are trying their hardest to improve search results (a thankless task) but please remember to rescue the babies thrown out with the bathwater! To this end, can googleguy suggest a method of flagging legitimate sites for re-appraisal - I'm thinking specifically as a consequence of Jagger?

[Ankhenaton]

66.102.7.104 seems to move :)

66.102.9 seems to be stable itm

[jd01]

1. Nearly every time I have had a site not rank, it has been due to something I have done or not done.

2. We are half way through mixing colors on 4 out of 40+ DCs, how do we know it's ugly?

3. Hand Reviewing -- I have said it's priceless before here you go again:

8 bil pages, by reviewing 10 pages per hour * 8 hours per day * 10000 people reviewing = 800,000 pages per day * 365 = 292,000,000 pages per year : so 8,058,044,651 / 292,000,000 = 27.59 years to get all the way through the index once.

4. Where is Clint when you need him?

Justin

[webpro00801]

Hate Google, love Google - whatever. It is unfair when your main keyword ends up getting replaced by a competitor and their home page is so obviously stuffed with keywords. Worse (as someone else mentioned) is being nearly cleansed for many thousands of other little terms. Traffic off by about 1/3 - business off more than that.

[walkman]

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[edited by: walkman at 5:02 pm (utc) on Oct. 28, 2005]

[walkman]

>> 27.59 years to get all the way through the index once

that's only if they make the sandbox last 27.59 years :)

[thecityofgold2005]

8 bil pages, by reviewing 10 pages per hour * 8 hours per day * 10000 people reviewing = 800,000 pages per day * 365 = 292,000,000 pages per year : so 8,058,044,651 / 292,000,000 = 27.59 years to get all the way through the index once.

I wish people would read through earlier posts first...

The above is correct but irrelevant. If one site had 100,000 pages and Google trusted it's creator then Google need do nothing to hand review it. Google can just presume it's OK.

If it isn't it will get picked up by it's competitors' spam reporting it.

In fact, Google need do very little since a lot of the crap will get picked up by scam reports. And even then Google does not need to go through every page, it can just penalise the whole site.

Get used to the idea.. Human input in serps is here and it is here to stay.

A sensible strategy now would be to get on the good side of Google. Sitemaps, wc3html, clean backlinks.. These are all good ideas for a webmaster right now.

[jd01]

I wish people would read through earlier posts first...

and I wish people would use a little simple reason and logic when they post...

Doesn't look like either will be getting what we want any time soon.

Justin

BTW I have read the entire thread...