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My website has plenty of outbound links, but they are on relevant pages. The problem my site has always had, was a lack of "inbound links." I got tired of searching for people to link to me (with all the spammy sites around) and gave up. So my pages have acquired some links naturally I guess(and I'll bet I still don't have more than 30 inbound links for the whole site) Still have a PR4, which I've had since it disappeared in Nov.
[edited by: Brett_Tabke at 8:54 pm (utc) on May 27, 2005]
oldpro, I trust you got my sticky. Was the information helpfull?
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As for what/who is on first, we still have about a week more to this dance.
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It is the advertisers who are footing the bill, and it is the publishers that are providing information the a potential buyer reads while deciding if item 1 or item 2 meets his needs, and it is Google who is matching the page content to the advertisers.
In this situation all parties derive a portion of the $ stream. The advertiser from the buyer, the publisher from Google, Google from the advertiser, the buyer doesn't get a portion of the $ stream, but has been able to evaluate various items, and then make an informed purchase.
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If however the searcher can't find information other than just an ad he'll go elsewhere.
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So we have our answer at last the fat lady is still in the building warming up for the closing act. In lava speak, it ain't crusted over yet.
Awaiting, GoogleGuys very own thread.
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[edited by: walkman at 6:24 pm (utc) on June 1, 2005]
Yes, I did get your sticky and it was very helpful...put my fears to rest.
As for the duplicate content issue from page to page...
I am not sure how I can get around this as my website deals with one thing. I guess the only things that count is whether my customers find it helpful and hopefully google will not turn the filter up too high on me.
As they say across the pond...
Cheers
>The dilemmia for google is how are they going to identify the good adsense publishers from the bad. It seems that with bourbon there has been alot of collaterial damage.<
It isnīt that much difficult as some might think.
- First define what is a "bad" AdSense publisher.
- Find examples of bad AdSense publishers and study their sites.
- Write killer algos to remove the garbage out of the index.
If Google has a problem in the first two points, they can just come here and ask for feedback. Most of us AdSense publishers are willing to help.
BTW, have any of you a detailed definition of: a "bad" AdSense publisher?
I wonder if current PR data still needs to be brought in?
Two things make me think this is a possibility
1) 2 of my sites which last month made it into the index on the back of new links have dropped in ranking on uncompetitive terms.
2) I remember comments made by GG about one way they test their new algo's. They work behind the scenes on a fixed environment and when it comes to releasing the algo they release this environment together with the new algo to see if the algo works in the real world. I remember him saying on an earlier update that the PR data was old and they would bring it in once they were happy with the new algo.
Here's hoping.
I doubt that the huge dropouts on this update are related to gaining or losing a PR point.
One that targets an adwords advertiser or group of advertisers...scraps their content without adding any original or useful supplimental information...the page is nothing but a psuedo directory optimized for the target keywords...pollutes the serps and acts as nothing but a glorified doorway to the advertisers.
Although not define as such, but the same effect as hijacking. Serves no purpose, but to butt in to get a piece of the action.
Then there is the "dark side" scraper directories with adsense that actually do 302's hijacks to steal your PR.
These are the first that I think google should give the death penalty to.
I agree, I didn't mean it explained everything.
My earlier theory might explain some of the major dropouts.
That is that when considering on-page content Google now seems to be happy with a single on page occurence of a term in a multi-term search phrase. Wheras before multiple occurrences of individual terms and proximity were more important.
This results in far more pages appearing in the initial result set for a phrase, allowing irrelevant but high ranking (in terms of PR, backlinks and site rank) pages to compete with your more relevant page in subsequent stages of ranking.
I have a vague feeling of deja vu here. Wasn't there an earlier update where we saw a lot of irrelevance from Google? People were talking about 'over optimisation penalties'. Didn't GG say there was still more data to be added and then after a few weeks things improved?
