Update Jagger, Google Update Oct 18th, 2005

When can we expect a new PR update?

[jretzer]

Continued from here:
[webmasterworld.com...]

---

Anyone have any guesses as to when we can expect a new systemwide PR update?

[2by4]

"unless you have a special status"

Exactly, it's that special status that interests me.

I'm going to have to go back and read the patent application from 3-31.

While scrapers can affect the nature of inbounds, they can't affect the nature of outbounds. And before the scrapers start hitting your site, there is already a pattern of link building happening, if it's all fully legitimate, that's something that can be modelled. Scrapers themselves can be modelled, just download the scraping tools and look at the pages they create, then remove that profile from the serps.

If there's one thing I've seen, it's that most seos have no creativity, they are trying to shove stuff out the door as fast as possible. This is their weakness.

If the large growth happens before the natural growth, that's almost a dead give away of seo, not completely, could be news stories etc, slashdotting, but those types of sites usually already had a presence on the web.

[edited by: 2by4 at 10:10 pm (utc) on Oct. 27, 2005]

[SEOTard]

walkman - we were on top for several years before June.

I sure hope it doesn't happen. Either way - most of my time since has been spent finding other ways to generate business.

As I have stated before, a business model that relies so heavily on Google is not a good business model at all.

Thank GOD I didn't quit my job when business was so good at the beginning of the year. I have learned ALOT since June.

[RunnerD]

Can someone clarify something for me -

Why does a page go supplemental?
How do you get it out from supplemental?

[reseller]

stinky

>>I have also noticed that other web sites that are doing the same affiliate program as me have disappeared. Anybody have opinions on this? <<

Have you checked lately the vendor/merchant site of your affiliate program to see whether its penalized?

[Atomic]

It's just possible that the sites I'm seeing left in the serps that have heavy link building work on them have simply done the work consistently over the years, that's just a guess, and have avoided bursts, or other signs of unnatural link growth. Takes discipline though. And takes time.

It sure does take time. Building traffic this way takes a painful amount of time but my guess is that it could ultimately lead to the greatest reward. As long as you are thinking long term and not traying to just make some cash as fast as you can before Google takes your juice away.

[nzmatt]

This may be a bit basic SEO 101 for some of you guys but:

…what happens if Home page Meta tags are changed during a Google update?

Does it trip a filter or have a detrimental affect on a site’s SERPS? Is it seen as responsive manupulation by the engine?

It’s just that I have wanted to change the title for some time – should I wait for Jagger to complete?

Has any one had any experience? Thanks

[Atomic]

It’s just that I have wanted to change the title for some time – should I wait for Jagger to complete?

If this is something you are going to do no matter what then there's no point in waiting.

[Eazygoin]

I changed my header tag outside of an update, and it affected my SERP's in MSN search for about 3 weeks. They then settled back to positions in the first 10 results. It had no effect on Google,but as we aren't sure what Jager 3 is all about, It may best to act cautiously , and leave it for another 2 weeks or so before making changes.

[reseller]

nzmatt

In addition to Eazygoin suggestions, you may wish to visit this thread:

Site dropped due to "Gaming Google"
Are you gaming Google without being aware of that?

[webmasterworld.com...]

[Atomic]

Changing the title during an update shouldn't cause your site to rise or fall nor should a simple change like that be construed as "gaming google". Changing a title is pretty normal webmaster behavior. If you are changing the title to attempt to increase your rank then you may as well wait. If it's something unrelated to ranking and, as I said, something you are going to do no matter what then just do it.