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"Barking Up The Wrong Tree" springs to mind.
The sector i watch is celebs; names, pictures & wallpaper. Probably rubbished by most of you who read this and put it down to "fodder sites" as someone once told me i ran (not on WebmasterWorld).
Anyway the point of this:
www.some-diet-works-.com (fake) ranks #1 - daily cache
www.celeb-name-pictures.com (fake) ranks #30+ - whenever cache
diet site - bs, spam ibl's
celeb site - quality content, 90% that rank above it, link to it.
diet site - buy this, buy that, clickbank special, spam this, spam that.
celeb site - more on site pics and wallpaper than any above it. network ads + amazon.
I have 100+ sites. My main one got the chop on sept 22 for a filter (guessing) that i finally worked out yesterday (i hope). All my other sites so far still sitting as they were.
My main observation is that some things that seem to be true to one sector are blown out by another.
Ive seen a few guys talk about the travel sector, Im just not sure we can tie what they
are seeing to other sectors. I have chatted and discussed points with other WebmasterWorld members and what seems to affect one sector isn't another (Above observation)
They all seem to have their own set of rules / guidlines / policies - call them what you will.
My two cents aint worth much but feel better for saying it.
Carry on......... ;-)
[edited by: djmick200 at 12:06 am (utc) on Oct. 28, 2005]
maybe it's all just flashback.
I totally agree. I've seen the same things, with old posts (in a G group) along older sites that have not been updated in awhile covering the 1st two pages of my SERPs. I wonder if G rolled back the algo on purpose, in order to try and let the "crud rise to the top" so they can be skimmed off.
Yeah, that's it - so the further down you are now, the better once Jagger3 rolls on in and skims off the top!
We could think of 4000 things, but just one or two could've caused the drop. Many of those things that Google has on the patent can't be implemented, at least not with the "drop the site to page 15" certainty. You might rank #2 instead of #1 but not outside the 500 range. Of course they could be accumulative: if you match 25 out of 40 you're a "spammer" but even then, not all have the same weight.
Our niche is easy to figure out though, the sites that survived give me very good counter examples to study.
It's not the specifics of the patent application (and keep in mind, that could simply be an enormous red herring filed by google to totally mislead seos. It's not a whitepaper, it's just a bunch of ideas that would be interesting to check out) that I'm interested in, it's the overall tone of it, the feel of the document, what you get if you ignore the words and focus on what they are really talking about in the thing. Same old stuff, people rarely say what they mean, but enough words will generally show what you meant no matter what you try to do. That's why I like it when gguy posts a lot.
All but gone!
Well I manage a major Superbowl 1/2 time website, they get to many darn hits to see any changes so this one does not point to much.
Another site dealing with technology services, 2 actually, got hit about 50-70% drop in total hits.
I think it is about the speed at which things take place on a site, one thing I did notice on another site I manage, (Trance Music Industry) is that I by mistake added many outbound links to another site I manage.
Both sites were hit, but what is odd is that... [one of them] it was a mistake in adding to many new outbound links I think. But hard to say as the other site did get the inbounds from all those mistake outbounds (links) I made.
One thing I wonder about is the site with a Pagerank 5 where I created many new content pages with these outgoing links lost most Google traffic. I would say out of 100 hits 3 are Google hits now (Use top be 1 out of 2), so does this mean it was a penalty or would I loose 100% of Google hits if so (Penalty)? (Never could quite figure this out)
I do manage at least 20 websites, a few of them big players in any industry... I do not tell everyone here all I see and know as it would just hurt each one of us.
I do think Google does his midnight walks on WebmasterWorld to spark new Spam reports to better Google only. I see them making it look like they are helping but I truly ask myself if this is the case; I think they are here for themselves. Now that Google is (GOOG) and at 353+ per share it is now about investors and mostly PPC, I know they want better results (SERPS) but I think fund managers and investors have mixed the milk with the whiskey so to speak. (Not a good combo) Would you drink it?
- Hollywood -
They don't care about any thing but the mighty $$$, plain and simple, if you people don't see this, you are blind!
Why else would they make the money terms hard to get?
If your site is still ranked good, don't worry, it won't be shortly!
All in my opinion of course!
