Update Jagger, Google Update Oct 18th, 2005

When can we expect a new PR update?

[jretzer]

Continued from here:
[webmasterworld.com...]

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Anyone have any guesses as to when we can expect a new systemwide PR update?

[itloc]

>jd01: The *relevance* of a page has everything to do >with the text on the page...

That hits the nail on the head and is definitely the only thing one can do to get more visitors from Google and other engines: increasing the relevance of a page.

And how good - the users will also benefit from this :-)

Btw: I like to mention that I am quiet happy with this update so far. My traffic went up significantly during phase I, went down a little with phase II and I hope it will go up again with phase III. I have found more URL - only pages after phase II. Hope they will be read from Gbot and dissappear with phase III.

Regards

itloc

[driwashsolutions]

Here's what she said: "Today I was really annoyed by Google, I did not find anything I was looking for. For example, I was searching for the homepage of a well-known industry event and Google just did not manage to find it, at least not on the first few pages. Gosh, what's going on?"

Just as badly as this update is hurting us that have dropped, I'm sure G is not liking this type of comment either. Believe me, my site dropped and my sales have taken a dive. I'm waiting for Jagger3 before I start panicking. I do believe that G is not trying to purposely hurt the little guy, and that they're honestly trying to improve their "product".

[bwnbwn]

I thought is was strange but my traffic from msn and yahoo has gone crazy since the update as well I think that shows me the general population are really not going for this new update and looking for better searches. They don't have a clue on the update just goes to show this is really a bad update and Google search has really missed it's mark

[alika]

Spam is not a problem in the main keywords that I am tracking. In fact, it's spam free with no scrapers.

It's more a problem of relevance. Granted that we were previously #1 or #2 before (now we're #12 in our main keyword), but those that moved up are big corporations that have little to do with the 2-word keyphrase "red widgets". It's just that the word "red" and the word "widgets" are found on the new top sites, with "red" a very common term used by every website on the web. I don't mind being pushed down if I know that those sites are more relevant to the keyword, but these are just big corporations that have little to do with "red widgets"

[Eazygoin]

The latest SEO and Spam Patent [appft1.uspto.gov]...judge for yourselves who it's from!

[edited by: tedster at 9:33 pm (utc) on Oct. 27, 2005]
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We have also seen a large increase in traffic from MSN and Yahoo while Google Traffic has gone to zero.

Interesting to note that (flawed as it is) the number two and number three increased sites on this list:

[alexa.com...]

are Matt Cutts site and searchengineworld.com which are both providing update info.

[Garya]

Well its kind of bad search experience when you do a search for real estate in your area and only 3 realtors come up in the first 5 pages. compared to Msn that has over 40.

[Yippee]

I have a question... Coincidentally, we began a face lift on our site beginning of September and are about to launch it in the coming days. Granted, the URL/links are all the same, however, anchor text, page titles, and more sections have been changed or added. Jagger hit right in the middle of our work. I am now challenged with the idea of launching the new make-over of the site before Jagger has settled down. The make-over is not SEO driven, and it is designed to give the users a better experience. I know G says it's all about the user, however, quite frankly I do not believe them anymore.

If we launch this make-over, I am wondering if it will raise the G flags as if we are tweaking our pages to better our SERPs (chasing the update sort of thing). Our site is clean and does not exercise hardly any SEO (if anything white hat)... Just lots of content that generates plenty of user clicks. I strongly believe the truth will set us free, however, G is playing too much godmode these days.

What do you guys think? Launch or wait?

[edited by: Yippee at 7:05 pm (utc) on Oct. 27, 2005]

[g1smd]

Heh, what a great way to game Alexa then: have a large community and on a weekly basis change the base domain name for site usage, and redirect the other one - then the following week swap it back as it was. Then Repeat.

[mzanzig]

and searchengineworld.com which are both providing update info

Maybe it's related to the temporary relocation of WW?