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I recently submitted the my site into dmoz about 2 months ago and got in fairly quickly. Just noticed my first hit to the site from Google directory today.
So I checked up on the link and it is showing number 1 in the list (listed in order of highest pagerank first) with a pr6.
What I don't understand is my site is only a pr4. I have recently increased my link back count within google four fold, so my question is this... Does this pr6 indicate what might be ahead or is this just purely google being messed up?
On the subject of javascript redirects,
I built my site with frames (I did not know any better at the time), then after a few hundred pages of product, I found out how to use Javascript to redirect and load the pages into the corresponding framesets. None of these are doorway pages, all of them are for selling product.
Question 1
Am I in trouble now, I have planned for a while to correct the issue with a menu system, but have not started yet.
Question 2
Do I need to be concerned about losing my standings in the serps due to changing 400+(now) pages within a short timeframe?
Thanks!
(Back to watching)
nsqlg, were there JavaScript redirects or doorway pages in the folder before?
People should note that some advertising routines use javascript redirects. Casale and Fastclick among others. I'm now wondering if these "legitimate" scripts can still downrank a site...
>>Oh my! He used thaaat word "update" again!
Guess that will spark off another 250 posts here...<<
GG & Matt speak "Googlish" and understand update in entirely different way than some of us do ;-)
However, GG and Matt still our good friends, regardless of our differences.
Yes!
GG, I'm not scraper! We made our content for the users, without any seo, for about 3 years this worked very well, but please understand, today is very hard continue competitive if other sites make SEO. For me is more easy just make content, but we need think in google these days, G bugs, filters, if want keep growing.
I'm added in dmoz top level (World: My language: My category: Yes I'm here in top/root), so, not a spam site...
Your job dont is help webmasters, sorry for waste your time... thanks anyway.
[edited by: nsqlg at 12:08 am (utc) on Sep. 14, 2005]
Trisha: What about if you do an allinurl:www.yoursite command - are you at the top (or there at all!)?
I'm there, but not at the top. For one site - there are a few urls there that look kind of spammy and are supplemental - for the other site - one blog directory is listed there first.
Back to business ;-)
I see the site which has occupied position #2 (within my testing keyphrases related to marketing & advertising) for a loooooooong time disappeared from the top on several DCs, for example:
64.233.167.99
64.233.167.104
216.239.59.104
216.239.53.104
66.102.11.104
66.102.9.104
64.233.171.99
64.233.171.104
64.233.171.105
64.233.171.147
Call it "everflux" if that makes GG happy ;-)
Bed time for the old reseller..
Good night and God bless
No, of course, but be approved is a start.
(You dont speak english too? heh)
Thanks. :)
My site which has dropped int he serps by about 30-40 places depending on search phrase has a lot of scraper sites appearing before me
Join the club dude. In our case it appears to be the infamous "duplicate content filter". Check your site for the following things which many feel trigger that filter:
www and non-www pages at the site
directories or files that have identical content
Personally, I think that scraper sites can wind up affecting the duplicate filtering process and hurt legitimate sites, but that view is not shared by all.
I just noticed something very strange. When I was a complete newbie to the web and my site was about 3 months old, I noticed I was ranking well for my now 1 year old site:
allintext:keyphrase
Of course I couldn't rank for keyphrase, but eventually I was able to.
Now, with the previous update, quite the opposite has happened. Not only can't I rank for anything, but I now do NOT rank for a keyphrase with "allintext:keyphrase", and "allintext:keyphrase" is much easier to rank well for even if a site is in the sandbox. For the one or two phrases that I DO rank for without a problem, such as my site name, I still am not found by "allintitle:keyphrase". This is STRANGE, but this seems to be an indicator of an error or penalty or whatever you call it. What about the rest of you guys who suffered or are suffering. Do you rank well for "allintext:keyphrase"?
I am just trying to figure this thing out and I haven't had an answer since May :( But I do think my findings lean towards some kind of indication of an error/penalty despite what Google says.
Since the Gilligan non-update is not happening, maybe we can start discussing the "everflux" of the SERPS in terms of Fred Flintstone's Closet.
When Fred Flintstone gets into his closet to get the bowling ball, all of the junk falls out and the bowling ball gets lost, right?
EVERY site (not just mine, also many org and edu sites) that I have looked at using site: or allinurl: has a huge number off Supplemental Results - many are REALLY OLD, like years old. These Supplemental Results are not just "duplicate content" - many are old, dead, gone, 404.
If you consider that Google is cleaning the closet out, and realize that the SERPS are being affected by all of the junk...
It is possible that many people who think their sites must have been "penalized" are not able to find their bowling ball in the pile of junk...
I'm seeing major improvements on most datacenters, however my main google page still shows the old serps.
Any one have any idea when these new changes might migrate over?
By the way this is a site that I've been working on since February - completely white hat stuff, and I've been loosing faith in Google since it's been taking this long. I'm still trying to not get too excited until everything settles, but so far it's looking good.
Good luck to all and hope to see you at Pubcon!
What do you mean?
I don't know what I did to make google not like my sites
Trisha, may be it will help to see if you have -
- Canonical URL
- Duplicate content (may be someone has stolen your content that is creating problem)
If the site is new, I don't think I have to remind of Sandbox problems :)
Best Wishes
>>I really dont want to say, and i dont want to expect, that their is an algo update, but the referrers to my site coming from google is really increasing and my website serp in some data centers is really higher than before.<<
It could well be an algo update in progress. I also see changes within the sector I watch.
I found out during my last visit to NY that they have very delicious milk over there, called "half & half" which I and family enjoyed each and every morning of our visit.
Maybe what's going on on Google at present could be described as half & half Update. GoogleGuy and Matt wouldn´t call it an update and some of us wouldn´t call it an everflux. Its something between ;-)
>> A whole building full of tech staff and you can not fix it.
We know they discussed fixes ... whether to use Yahoo's method or something else. So, GG, any decision on which way to go?
BTW, my favorite gilligan report was the one that had an operating system and a callsign in the url. That was a fruitful spam report..
Night night.
My site has gone just about every update for the last 4 years, then (thankfully) returns a month later, fingers crossed on this - 'backlink update' too!
Hopefully you could give me some quick guidence regarding the problem I have with my site.
Our site has dropped about 4 - 5 pages depending on search term recently. whilst looking for a reason for this I used the allinurl:www.mysite.co.uk . The results returned are mainly scaper sites, but then when I go through all of the results I get to the :
"In order to show you the most relevant results, we have omitted some entries very similar to the 128 already displayed.
If you like, you can repeat the search with the omitted results included."
when I click on this my correct site pages are returned at the top. My question to you is that for me this looks as if Google are saying that in their mind the scaper results are more relevant that my own actual pages which the scraper sites copied.
Can you advise in any way as to what I should do.
Exactly what happened to me a week ago, and it seems several others too - the same symptoms as the bourbon update, although I came back from that one.
I dont know, but it looks like there is some kind of penalty which puts you on page 3 for all search terms, low or nowhere in the allinurl commands.
I have also disappeared from the allinanchor: for all keywords too.
There isn't one. Google has at least 40 or 50 IP addresses, and each day (even from hour to hour) you'll be on a different one - and will see different results.
If I search for my domainname - site index page on 5th page.
Site pages indexed in Google - 93 (all pages are in index now, previously it was showing only 35 pages)
After this BL update - increased from 59 to 88 BL.
For one of my keyword the SERP is on 6th page.
Today noticed that only URL is showing without title and description for index page rest of the site pages has title and description.
Anyone over there observed the same kind of things? what might be reason for showing only URL and not showing title and description for home page?
