:-( : Update...false alarm Sept 2005

What *is* an Update?

[straticus]

Continued from:
[webmasterworld.com...]

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It seem the backlink update has begun, not surprising after the heavy spidering lately, good luck everyone!

[reseller]

taps

>>I do panic. After checking my serps with a well known tool there are more DCs where I lost SERPS.<<

Sorry to hear that. I know of other DCs which are updating too, but show another set of serps than the DCs I mentioned in my previous post. For example:

66.102.11.99
66.102.11.104
66.102.11.106
66.102.11.107

216.239.59.98
216.239.59.103
216.239.59.104
216.239.59.105
216.239.59.106
216.239.59.107
216.239.59.147

How are you doing on those DCs?

[jcmiras]

My web pages rank well in reseller's latest set of DCs

[joeduck]

Dear GoogleGuy -

Weather report needed!

[reseller]

Hi Folks

Fantastic ;-)

My google.com (66.249.93.99) has started showing something similar to (or the same as) Update Brett serps!

Goooooooooooooooogle you rock!

[phantombookman]

Still no changes on the DCs mentioned to my sites or those around me

[Angelis]

Whats this update Brett thing all about?

[r3nz0]

cool, here we waiting for;

i dont know if this is some florida but i see some small changes; and i have allready 2 google referers today =) witch is rare at this time.

[reseller]

I wish to hear from fellow members who had been affected by Allegra (2-3 Feb 2005) and during the changes which happened in the period around 20th July 2005.

How are you doing on the DCs I posted or on your own google.com?

Thanks!

[web hound 05]

In response to Reseller's request:

I have a site affected by the changes around July 20th.

We thought it was a duplicate content issue, which we think we have now resolved... However we have not seen any significant or even barely marginal improvement in our rankings.

We used to rank No.1 for a popular search term, this dropped to 5 and is currently at 3. But we relied heavily on individual searches for specific terms, we seem to have lost a lot of those referrers.

The impact on our traffic, has been a decrease of about 50% :(, and after two months, still no improvements.

[taps]

reseller: checked some of the DCs you mentioned above. Our site is almost gone there.

We've lost more than 50% of our traffic this morning. I do not have any idea why. After vanishing with Allegra we made it back with Bourbon. I think it was dup content penalty then. And I thought we had resolved that problem.

Our site has more than 3000 self written articles. I do not have any idea what the problem could be. Any help would be appreciated - sticky me for the url.

[Dayo_UK]

Reseller

I am doing rubbish on all dcs still.

[taps]

I have to correct: Lost 75% of traffic...

[reseller]

Dayo_UK

>>Reseller
I am doing rubbish on all dcs still.<<

Sorry to hear that my friend. I´m writing you a sticky right now ;-)

[Dayo_UK]

Reseller

It is still just about status quo though - rubbish before - still rubbish. Perhaps a bit more rubbish.

But it could be an early stage - who knows.

Dayo

[vinylrecordsuk]

I am back! to pre Bourbon "number 2 position out of 7,580,000 results"

I lost 50% of my business at the end of June during the Bourbonne update and got it all back today.
I am one happy man. Thanks Google!

[dt1961]

I picked up a dropped domain and have a 1 page holding site. Google has indexed this. Now when I search for this domain I get this 1 page plus 144 others that belonged to the previous site. All this old content has a cache date of 28th September 2004!

I also find my main site has effectively disappeared from the index.

Searches are now producing very weird off topic results.

Yahoo and MSN are still producing the bulk of my traffic.

Is Google in a mess?

[ct2000]

Just dropped from page 1 down to page 14 on my main keyword(s) (more than just the everflux me thinks!)

[DevInteractive]

finally back from Bourbon update!

woho! I hope this lasts now1

[Dayo_UK]

Ok - getting depressed again.

Hmmm - I guess my Canonical url problems go back to before Bourbon - so as I mentioned in the Bourbon thread - those who suffer the longest are still suffering.

[ct2000]

looks like someone pressed the "roll back" button ;)

[reseller]

web hound 05 & taps

Sorry to hear about your situation. May I suggest that in addition to removing duplicates to remove any possible 100% frame pages with contents originated from other sites than yours, and pay good attention to possible outbound links on your front page. Go through your site several times and clean anything which is not in accordance with Google's quality guidelines.

[google.com...]

and take a look at what Brett wrote here. GoogleGuy has recommended this article in several of his posts.

Successful Site in 12 Months with Google Alone (Brett Tabke)
[webmasterworld.com...]

Once you have done that, follow Matt Cutts guidelines, posted on his blog, to send a "Reinclusion Request".

Good luck for both of you.

[taps]

reseller: thanks for your advice. You're right with that. However I went through that several times after allegra. But maybe I'll have to do that again. Maybe I have overlooked something.

I'll wait a few days from now before taking any action. I have a small hope that google will reinclude us while rolling forward again.

[tigger]

are you seeing these new results on .com or one of the DC's as I'm not seeing any major changes on either .com or .co.uk? with the keywords I monitor

[djmick200]

I see some people are saying things are looking how they did before Bourbon update, well not here I'm sorry to say.

Several keywords / keyphrases my site has ranked #1 for around 2 years are now 2nd, 3rd and 4th page in the SERPS.

I hope they have a few more buttons to push at Google HQ.

:-(

[steveb]

Google at it's worst apparently. The trash heap including reams and reams and reams of supplemtals going in, and lots of niche authority pages going out.

It appears the more your content has been stolen, the more supplementals that are now being dumped into the results, the more likely the original page is to be drastically devalued (not totally gone like a 302, but down hundreds of spots).

If you have lost a page, search for a long string of text in quotes, see how you aren't ranking for the text but a bunch of supplemental crap is there, then click the "more results" link at the end of the results, then poof see your page pop up at #1 for the search.

Google is collapsing under the weight of the idiotic Supplemental index. And, it appears thus far, if anyone from Google says anymore that competitors can't harm you, they are a liar because it is blatantly obvious now.

[anttiv]

Some sites unaffected, others are 90% down. Overall the worst update ever for me. I cannot understand why a clean site that ranked well for 6 months has dropped from page 1 to page 8 on a non-competitive keyword. Looks like a manual filter but why?

[Nikke]

My newes site, that has been doing quite well, has as expected dropped as a rock this morning. It's barely visible for any keywords at all.

But otherwise, I see few changes this time.
My older sites still doing well.

Sites launched this spring that climbed back upp with the non-existing Gilligian update are still on page 1, but I guess I'll have to wait another couple of months for the top 5 positions.

[g1smd]

You need to look at individual Google IPs to see what is going on.

There are at least two sets of separate results floating about.

[djmick200]

'You need to look at individual Google IPs to see what is going on.
There are at least two sets of separate results floating about.'

Can you point me in the right direction please?

[taps]

I can confirm that: two result sets. On 50% of them our site has vanished. The other 50% are ok. Yesterday the ratio was around 30% vanished an 70% ok.

On google.com and google.de I see the worse 50%.

So far I read about sites coming back that vanished after bourbon and vice versa.

What about new pages? Somebody coming up with this update?

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[edited by: taps at 10:19 am (utc) on Sep. 22, 2005]