Forum Moderators: Robert Charlton & goodroi
we seem to have dissappeared for these one or two terms only
You are really on to something there.
The site that has been causing me trouble wasn't exactly invisible for it's main keywords, but got dumped down as low as #59. And this for 3 terms that almost nobody would look for after the first page. They didn't. Traffic sunk like a rock.
The area for this site is a nich within the health care sector, and the competition consists of sub pages or sub areas of large, government-type sites. And even if there aren't that many of them (95k results for the main search phrase) they all carry the weight of being old and heavily linked.
What's happened now, is that the site suddenly is back on the first page, with two listings, varying between postitions 7 + 8, 9, 10, and 9 + 10. This happens on about half of the data centers I watch.
These positions are about the same as the site had pre Bourbon, but definitely with new results.
Now, those who argue that this is just a natural shift in serps. Sure. It might be. There might be some kind of filter that has lifted from the site, and I can only hope that this filter will also be lifted from the rest of the DCs as well.
As for speculation about what kind of filter... Maybe some kind of sandbox light (the domain was registered in March). The site gained some 200 incoming links during the first month, it has since kept gaining new links, and since yesterday we see 227 pages with the link: command.
I still feel I can bring the site higher without resorting to any bad methods. But it is harder work than I ever thought at the start. The on-page factors on most of the competing sites are next to none. With a few exeptions they all seem to rank well out of age and authority.
So what I'm saying with this unnaturally (for me) long post, is that for this one site, this is equal with an update.
The site suddenly ranks well beacuse of new backlinks, in a fresh set of data, that slowly evolves to more and more DCs, but that I'm not seeing this mini-update affect any of my other sites, where the serps are almost unaturally still.
www.www.mysite.co.uk - Cannot find Page.
www.www.www.mysite.co.uk - Page Found OK.
www.www.www.www.mysite.co.uk - Page found OK.
alll www prefixes of 5 and above - Cannot find Page.
If anybody has any knowledge of such a thing then please let me know. I would also be VERY interested to hear from anybody else who is having similar SERPs problems as me to see if they get the same or similar results.
Virtually Everyone knows there is a problem - so why are G not answering any questions on it.
>>not really an update, just a dance... <<
The NEW Google neither dance nor takes hostages. Ask Dayo_UK and he can tell you all about it ;-)
The Googlers were mighty searchin' peeps,
Of their Algo they were brave and sure.
The update it set sail that day,
for a three hour tour, a three hour tour………
The weather started getting rough,
the SERPs they all were tossed.
If not for the courage of the Google-ers,
the SERPs would all be lost; the SERPs would all be lost.
The SERPs took ground on the shore of this uncharted online pile,
with GoogleGuy ....
and Tabke too ...
some Millionaires ...
and their Wives...
downloaded Movie Stars....
Professor Schmidt, Mary Ann....
Here on Googleans's Isle!....
Nice one.
Bek.
I manage two poetry sites plus my own. Maybe I should set one up for Frustrated Webmasters :o)
Fantastic!
How about a love song for Update Gilligan ;-)
Nice to hear from you.
Any weather report about Update Gilligan or should we wait from now to December ;-)
So in conclusion what exactly did we did decide regarding this thread?
Was this an update? If not is there one in the near future?
Please Advise. It will help me decide as to how I need to prepare in case this was not a genuine update.
Thanks!
We'd be even happier if you announced the end to the 301/302 problem, the updating of your 16 year old supplemental index, and the curing of world hunger :)
If your site is clean, dont need fear :)
But maybe GG only is accepting spamreports.
For reinclusions, I'd go with the main way to do reinclusion requests: [google.com...]
Make sure to use the Subject line of "Reinclusion Request".
its not that sites are REMOVED from the google index when you 301 them, its that previous rankings tank.
Not so on msn
Not so on Yahoo
Not so on any other search engine
Only Google.
The reinclusion request is irrelevant. After a 301 is applied, the site/pages quickly come up in google, its just that all rankings are removed.
Its wrong. Webmasters have followed googles instructions to their detriment. To get around the problem I set my 301's not to be read by google, instead, having google see a meta refresh.
This, is plain crazy, but it works. ALl other search engiens get to see my 301's, but to get around the stupid stupid google problem, I have to basically breach googles TOS.
Its attrocious. A whole building full of tech staff and you can not fix it.
>>Make sure to use the Subject line of "Reinclusion Request". <<
Shouldn´t our fellow members also include their WW user names ;-)
[edited by: reseller at 11:32 pm (utc) on Sep. 13, 2005]
Oh my! He used thaaat word "update" again!
Guess that will spark off another 250 posts here...
I am still in the index using the "SITE:" command and so got the standard google response.
BUT allinurl:mysite doesn't show me at all, searching for "my very unique title" shows scrapers etc with me on page 3.
Should I do a reinclusion request?
Thanks
Dont is doorway of course...is clean. I just use javascript as link, if user click (like onmouseclick action). Maybe is a dupe filter, i dont know. (This folder have content moved from another part of your site, but the old URL is denied by robots.txt).
I'm sorry for my english again. I will travel to USA ASAP to learn :)
