Forum Moderators: Robert Charlton & goodroi
>>I'm not saying this is an update at all but something is definately happening to some of my sites from the travel sector. Some are effected different ways on different DCs, for example I have :.....<<
As far as I could read on different threads, travel sector hasnīt been affected by the movements on the DCs recently. Maybe its happening now.
This could be a PR update in progress. Can anyone confirm PR?
it is, but not the update we talk about. Those "updates" happen every single day.
Moving and shaking on all DCs right now for my testing keyphrases related to marketing and advertising.
Who dare to mention anything about a pre-update and risk to upset Matt on a Sunday ;-)
Seems to me that the activity so far is consistent with the idea that the index has recently absorbed a lot of page information but that they have not "flipped the switch" yet.
Somebody suggested earlier that a big change in index info could lead to more SERP changes from the normal daily flux.
will "update Gilligan" get renamed "update Katrina" when the flip the switch?
216.239.59.104
216.239.59.147
216.239.59.99
216.239.59.103
I now have two distinct sets of SERPS split 50/50 across the dcs.
different results
>>will "update Gilligan" get renamed "update Katrina" when the flip the switch? <<
Of course NOT.
Maybe we are witnessing now Pre-Update Gilligan which would be followed by Update Gilligan. And hopefully this time we are going to use the qualified judgements and vast experience of the folks of these great forums to decide whether there is an update or not ;-)
Pre-Update Gilligan which would be followed by Update Gilligan.
Well, OK, but I'd vote for RE-update Gilligan followed by post-update Gilligan followed by RESCUE from duplicate filters ...
Reseller, you are sounding like Skipper! How much weight have YOU PUT ON during this update dude?
When people mention DCs please list them so we can check to see if our terms are changing as well.
And my home page still missing, kinda.
Sowing up on those datacenters:
216.239.59.104
216.239.59.147
216.239.59.99
216.239.59.103
But not mysite.com but mysite.com/page.cfm (coldfussion) which doesnt seem to rank as good as mysite.com but hey still in there....
>>When people mention DCs please list them so we can check to see if our terms are changing as well.<<
Usually I do. But it seems that movements within the DCs are mostly only related to specific sectors, therefore I mentioned in my previous post msg #:396 that my testing keyphrases are related to marketing & advertising.
However, here are few tools you can use to watch movements within the Dcs
[google.com...]
I hope this helps.
In regard to a search phrase that interest me, I was able to notice only one curious change.
In 2001, I started one of those free groups in one of the major search media services. Slowly, the group began to grow with members. In 4 years it has 300 plus members.
Patiently, I added only relevant messages sent by the members.
Today, if you search Google for that key phrase, you'll most likely find the group's main page in position 40 plus. One of the pages that lists the messages shows in no. 60 plus.
I don't know if these positions obtained by the group will stick. Time will tell ...
Just a few weeks ago, I made a change to the group's URL address. I applied what Matt Cutts said about dashes v. underscores.
Pura vida.
These 4 datacenters give me significantly different results:
216.239.59.104
216.239.59.147
216.239.59.99
216.239.59.103
These DC don't show anything differnt for my keywords (financial).
I don't think PR was updated (visually) accross the board, I've got too many new pages that would be showing PR.
Doesn't appear to be anything more than everflux to me.
And I'm also seeing an even split between two sets of data.
One new and one old. Do I have to say that I really like the new one?
One very odd thing I've noticed recently along with others are some VERY old URLs that show with site:mysite.com. 3+ years since they've had anything but a 404 error or custom 404 page.
I wildly speculate that Google is assuming (correctly) that very old pages are far less likely to be spam and perhaps is running a lot of old content through some paces in an effort to get legitimate, longstanding sites appearing above the scrapers and copycats.
What do you see on these DCs when testing your keywords / keyphrases?
64.233.161.99
64.233.161.104
On 64.233.161.99, I see the new set of SERPs and on 64.233.161.104 I see pretty much the same as I'm seeing live.
64.233.161.104 has older data. I see a title that I know the change date for.
Maybe we are looking at the mother of Update Gilligan ;-)
64.233.161.99
The changes I see are greatly affecting the position for one of the sites I do, while it's hardly noticable for other keywords / phrases.
It's as if I'm seeing a total switch in one area only. If I didn't know what to look for, I'm afraid I just wouldn't believe it.
>>When there is a real update there is a DRAMATIC shake-up in the SERPs for many many different keywords. It affects lots and lots of people. During a real update, it's obvious that it is happening, there's no confusion.<<
I think that Google has changed tactics and we arenīt going to see updates of the same kind as for example Allegra or Bourbon.
In the past there were "a dance" and "an update". At present we have the daily "everflux" during which most changes take place. Then we arrive to an update of the kind "White Revolution" where the folks at the plex update an algorithm or switch over to a new piece of infrastructure "PEACEFULLY".
But of course I might be wrong ;-)
Im now convinced that an update is on its way.
There is no doubt that an update is on its way, it's just a little bit frustrating when peeps here keep claiming they're seeing differnt SERPs, when I see the same exact results. (I just looked on 64.233.161.99 and test about 10 word / phrases and I don't see any change in the first 30 results.)
Some people here have been claiming to see an update coming since August 31. Well, I am sorry, but it's nearly 12 days later and I just don't see it. Just the normal flux.
