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What *is* an Update?

     
8:06 am on Sep 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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It seem the backlink update has begun, not surprising after the heavy spidering lately, good luck everyone!
10:16 am on Sep 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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On 72.14.207.106 and some other DC's there seems to be a BL update going on.
1:40 pm on Sep 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I see changed in links at

72.14.207.104
72.14.207.99
72.14.207.106

McDar tool and google dance tool show changes as well.

1:49 pm on Sep 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I do not believe that I am the first to post this...

BLs updated on the below DCs.

72.14.207.104
72.14.207.99
72.14.207.106

What follows a BL update? SERP update? Algo change?

7:28 pm on Sep 3, 2005 (gmt 0)



We just lost position dramatically in Serps for all
keywords including unique company name that had previously
moved back up to #1 and now shows #32 in results.
Is anyone else experiencing anything "funny" today?
1:29 pm on Sep 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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One of my sites seems to have all but vanished from Google. If I type in the name even the .ru and other dubious sites appear before it.
The site still has a PR of 5 and is listed in DMOZ plus loads of other quality IBLs. What's annoying is many of the sites linking appear on the search but not mine.

The site's been gone for around 3 months now and I was working on the assumption that it'd sort itself out.

The site has been 100% legit for 3 months now. Previously I did have a big affiliate shopping section bolted on, but only selling highly relevant equipment. Strangely all these pages are still included in Google as Supplemental pages even thoug they return a 404.

Anyway, any ideas what's going on as it's beyond me and I can't get anything out of Google.

Thanks

6:11 pm on Sep 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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What happend?
I checked three websites of mine and two of them tripled the number of their pages using site:my-domain-name.com
10:47 am on Sep 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Gotta laugh at this one .. I have just done a site:www.mysite.com and found .. out of the 500+ UNIQUE pages of content 47 are showing and one of them is a very old link directory page

as retrieved on 26 Nov 2003 12:24:20 GMT

Can someone tell me what is going on here? IS google technology broken or what?

11:50 am on Sep 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Backlinks are updated and starting to populate. I noticed this update started.... September 3rd (just like I predicted).
12:08 pm on Sep 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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BillyS, can you tell me this weeks lotto numbers?
1:44 pm on Sep 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I see just normal Fluxuations
Google trying to fix all mass and erros of it's results, but it looks like Google still not competent enough to do so.
4:11 pm on Sep 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Google = Error?
6:45 pm on Sep 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I see just normal Fluxuations.

I see not abnormal flukuashuns.

Oh well, time to bbq. Or is it a bar-b-que? Or is it a barbeque? Or is it a barbecue?

7:06 pm on Sep 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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There is a BL update going on in a few datacenters... I have been watching closely for anything to show up for my recently 301'd domain name... so far it looks like this is just a BL update but none the less it is happening in at least these two DC's.

[72.14.207.99...]
[72.14.207.104...]

7:12 pm on Sep 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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>>>>301'd domain name... so far it looks like this is just a BL update but none the less it is happening in at least these two DC's.

What not another one of us :)

Just looks like a bl update though :(

7:50 pm on Sep 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Dayo_UK

>>What not another one of us :) <<

That might encourage you to start a new club: Google 301 ;-)

8:00 pm on Sep 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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PR for my old domain is 0 in some DC's (was PR 4 and is still in most DC's) but still 0 accross the board for the new domain. Would this indicate a PR update as well?
9:43 pm on Sep 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Yes.
12:48 am on Sep 5, 2005 (gmt 0)



I believe that the "update" is over. Usually backlinks and PR are updated last. What do you guys think?
1:56 am on Sep 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Oh I think the "Update" has just begun myself. I have 2 good sites that rank great in google in same serps same keywords everything.

Last update Site #2 Home Page disapeared, TPR disapeard, this is only for Home Page. Then a day or 2 later individual pages started to go bye bye, along with TPR. Meanwhile site #1 perfect no losses.

Now Site #1 doing same exact thing. Home Page gone from serps, no TPR nothing. Other pages have PR and are in serps. I have a feeling I'll watch each page one by one drop out, then all come back like site #2 did.

Thats what happened in the last update, and that whats happening now, I feel the "Update" is on now or iminant.

Update Katrina?

2:16 am on Sep 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I also believe this update has just begun... my guesstimation is the early morning hours of Labor Day (the irony is not lost on me) will probably be very active in terms of DC's fluxing.

Question for the more seasoned SEO's:
Has Google in past history ever done a PR, BL and ALGO change all in the same week? Doesn't seem likely but I was curious.

2:27 am on Sep 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I checked another "authority" site and same deal happening to it. This is a site in my area. My sites #1 and #2 are a bit bazaar on some points with Google.

They never ever have dates below them, even though they are spidered dailly and the cached pages are fresh as well. In addition the #1 site for instance if you typed in "Widgets" it has a seperate line below the serp saying "blue widgets" "green widgets" "red widgets" and each of those widgetrs below my serp is a link to an internal page in the site selling the widgets, its strange, and no other sites in the serps I watch has this.

I believe that my sites are in a more permanant index, hence they never ever have dates while the other sites in the serps do. So I think Google has a index within the index.... If I'm right my site will come back, suffer for a week prolly. Meanwhile we will have another Update XXXXXXX thread going and part 2 and part 3 like last time.

3:10 am on Sep 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I see no evidence whatsoever of an update, not even of a slight flux.
4:55 am on Sep 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I have already reported on Aug 31, 2005 very Vigorous Movement through out the datacenters and post it through my msg #:142 on this thread.

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As to this morning I still see different sets of serps through out the DCs. Especially one set where site #3 drop out of top 10, for my testing keyphrases related to advertising and marketing.

Therfore...its not over yet ..Folks.

Was it the start of an update? I really donīt know. But if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck..... ;-)

5:10 am on Sep 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I don't know if this is from an update whatsoever BUT watching some SEO-related results on top of SERP I see one website using heavy sub domain crosslinking to rank its website and GOSH it actually WORKS!

I though this was considered as spam as well and controled by search engines but with little incoming links (other than their own sub domains) this SEO company managed to rank all sub domains on the 2 first pages og Google...with a PR0

Am I missing something or they will get caught quickly? Or is it an ethical behavior...not sure what Google (and actually MSN) are doing right now....?

5:13 am on Sep 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

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>> But if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck.....

Is a dog, of course heh

If they push the bottom of the update will be cool see I guess.

6:07 am on Sep 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

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thought there would be movement...hoping...but I don't see it in my sectors...mostly dealing with brick and mortar businesses' websites dealing in "widgets"
6:45 am on Sep 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Looks like serps and backlinks are totally different on 72.14.207.104
7:00 am on Sep 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

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fasuloj

There is still much movements on the DCs, therefore ;-)

[edited by: reseller at 7:10 am (utc) on Sep. 5, 2005]

7:05 am on Sep 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

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In my sector most sites have updated backlings and changed positions. As an example local searches (in finnish) are still unchanged.

My main site is not yet back from the dead were it went during august (as many other sites).

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