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Google Update Bourbon Part 3

         

Sweet Cognac

8:35 pm on May 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Continued From:

[webmasterworld.com...]



My whole site has a new cache date of May 25th. Maybe once these other sites around me get recached, I won't hold such an honorable top position. But at least Google has found my pages worthy to sit in the Search again.:) It seems strange to look at the stats and see Google in there, after 6 months of just seeing Yahoo and MSN referrals.

My website has plenty of outbound links, but they are on relevant pages. The problem my site has always had, was a lack of "inbound links." I got tired of searching for people to link to me (with all the spammy sites around) and gave up. So my pages have acquired some links naturally I guess(and I'll bet I still don't have more than 30 inbound links for the whole site) Still have a PR4, which I've had since it disappeared in Nov.

[edited by: Brett_Tabke at 8:54 pm (utc) on May 27, 2005]

helleborine

9:30 pm on Jun 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Yes reseller, even worse, from page 15 to 16!

oldpro

9:37 pm on Jun 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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guys and gals...

I am seeing all the datacenters starting to syncronize...is this the beginning of the end? At least for me its good

confused ellie

9:44 pm on Jun 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I'm not seeing any alignments going on. *curious* My site is still all over the board and in miserable positions. *fingers crossed*

Ellie

reseller

9:51 pm on Jun 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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helleborine

>Yes reseller, even worse, from page 15 to 16!<

We are just at the 2.5 out of the 3.5 of Bourbon. Next week shall be the week of the next "major improvement". A nother chance for your site ;-)

walkman

10:30 pm on Jun 2, 2005 (gmt 0)



> We are just at the 2.5 out of the 3.5 of Bourbon

was the 0.5 done already?

RichTC

10:53 pm on Jun 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Yeah the .5 bit must be introduce all the cr@p again that was taken out before as long as the cr@p is over a certain age.

If the results of data centre 216.239.39.104 are being rolled out God help us. This .5 factor has just let a load of older sites with poor content back in and second rate directory sites and sites with re-directs etc.

enotalone

11:04 pm on Jun 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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GG, first thank you for finding time to explain for things; helps a lot.

Number of posts throughout bourbon thread talked about affiliate sites vs. manufacturer sites issues this update brings.

If possible can you please confirm that the update contains any such element(s)?

If so:
. Does it put distinction between affiliate sites and sites with affiliate content?
. Is the issue part of duplicate content problem every indexing process faces? Is there more into it?

confused ellie

11:18 pm on Jun 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I have also noticed many topics about affiliates vs manufacturers. This is starting to seriously concern me.

We work closely with a company which supplies us detailed product information that does match many, if not all, of the other affiliates they work with. I also noticed that once this update started, our site has been hit severely by our index page going from #5 to anywhere from 300 to 800+. Our lower pages naturally have fallen drastically as well.

When I do specific product searches where we used to rank well, we are now very low. However, I notice that many of the others working with this same company are also down with us on the search results. They were once also in considerably better positions.

Could this be a hint? Is there somewhere that says specifically that sites working with affiliates are now going to be punished? My site is 5 years old and sat in the same position during that 5 years and only recently have we started working rather closely with this particular company to offer goods that work well with our site.

We have abided by rules, we have kept our site up-to-date, continued to add content over the 5 years while many of our competitors haven't touched their sites after release and yet this is what happens. I am starting to think we should have just been a link farm with no unique content and I wouldn't be sitting here now wondering the fate of my business. :/

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

Ellie

P.S. I understand its premature to think that anything is said and final at this point as the update is still going on. However, as each day goes on, our datacenter results keep getting worse even though Google keeps recaching our site daily and adding pages to its index. It's making me more concerned that we will not recover and I need to look into all options.

[edited by: confused_ellie at 11:23 pm (utc) on June 2, 2005]

np2003

11:20 pm on Jun 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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This update is very horrible. Results are much less relevant than before. Many sites having been around for years are taking major hits and being sent right back, making way for sites with no useful content to steam ahead.

A lot of people fear this might happen once GOOGLE becomes a public company. Now, less than 1 year after becoming a public company, Google has lost it's excellence and soon I can see MSN taking over. Google is diverifying its products and services portfolio. It's just a matter of time now before Microsoft takes over, the first move is right now, MSN results will get better and better, the official take over will be the day the Search bar is integrated into the Longhorn OS and every average joe goes buys the next upgrade.

fearlessrick

11:53 pm on Jun 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I've been trying these different DCs and my site still is stuck around 76-85.

It's fine, I suppose, to inconvenience everybody while G rolls out whatever it is they're planning.

I would be more than satisfied with the results from before May 21. These results are not only horrible, but irrelevant and bordering on stupid.

Hoping for miracles after two weeks, like one is going ot occur in the third week, borders on hysterical.

The similarities to ebay are stunning. They did the same thing - rolled out changes live without testing and everybody was forced to just "eat it."

Enjoy your stale cake.

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