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Google Update Bourbon Part 3

         

Sweet Cognac

8:35 pm on May 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Continued From:

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My whole site has a new cache date of May 25th. Maybe once these other sites around me get recached, I won't hold such an honorable top position. But at least Google has found my pages worthy to sit in the Search again.:) It seems strange to look at the stats and see Google in there, after 6 months of just seeing Yahoo and MSN referrals.

My website has plenty of outbound links, but they are on relevant pages. The problem my site has always had, was a lack of "inbound links." I got tired of searching for people to link to me (with all the spammy sites around) and gave up. So my pages have acquired some links naturally I guess(and I'll bet I still don't have more than 30 inbound links for the whole site) Still have a PR4, which I've had since it disappeared in Nov.

[edited by: Brett_Tabke at 8:54 pm (utc) on May 27, 2005]

etraffic104

2:33 pm on Jun 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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yeah, well, Yahoo is pretty simple to get ranked in, for me at least. I just have a problem with Google because I'm not 100% sure about their Algo. All I know is the longer my sites are in there, the better they rank.

Clint

2:55 pm on Jun 2, 2005 (gmt 0)



GoogleGuy posted on another respected site that Google is going to be in flux for the next week. With minor tweaks there after.

Only MINOR tweaks? I just ran a check again for some search phrases where I WAS at the 1st positions prior to May 21st, and the results are even MORE senseless and non relevant that a few days ago! The sites with hidden text have MOVED UP in the hits, as has the links directory pages and the like, "yellow pages" results for proprietary cities having nothing to do with search phrases.....it's hideous. All the while, my RELEVANT site is getting trashed further and further into the bowels of cyberspace, along with my LIFE. I would pray that there would be a LOT more than "minor" tweaks.

confused ellie

5:43 pm on Jun 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Here here Clint :S

vabtz

5:50 pm on Jun 2, 2005 (gmt 0)



The update is not even over yet os we are not at the minor tweak point yet. So you'll have to just be patient.

helleborine

5:51 pm on Jun 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Clint, I see no such movement in my keyphrases.

Still dominating the top positions are very ancient, dull sites that have lost backlinks, and some poor quality directories/linkfarms with aggressive reciprocal linking policies.

oldpro

5:51 pm on Jun 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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hellebourne,

Validate your code, this could only help your situation. You have a few errors that would be considered fatal when a bot crawls your site. I am sure to save bandwidth during this update, the googlebot is making an early exit when it hits a site that it has to make accomodations for. This could explain your drop in the serps.

Dayo_UK

6:00 pm on Jun 2, 2005 (gmt 0)



GG

Just a quick thought - I would turn the allintext down a bit. Surely this is how some scrapers are doing so well in that they do very very well in the allintext search (as they are keyword rich pages - taking snippets from lots of different sites and therefore the keyword appears throughout the document?)

Just a thought - some of the searches I have done recently look very close to allintext.

Dayo

PS. Yep know its not done. Cant help myself in looking though.

Bard

6:27 pm on Jun 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Bring on the FTC.

Many of you are going to hate me for this but...

Any site that carries Google Adsense on the front page should never be allowed to list in the top 10 positions of any natural google listing. Seems to me this is a HUGE conflict of interest that Google can manipulate to its own ends just like so many other issues they currently sweep under the rug. Are they a search engine or a marketing engine? Seems to me they are going head long into so many different media avenues they have become a marketing entity and therefore should be REGULATED based on market share similar to how AT&T was regulated at one time.

Don't worry if the feds get involved the SEO game will still be afoot but this time there will be some set of rules a search engine must abide to be a search engine.

Maybe I'm crazy.

What's your take on this?

WhoopsAccident

6:55 pm on Jun 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Wow . . . am I glad I found this thread. At least I now know I am not the only one.

I don't for one minute think Google has a personal vendetta against anyone - we are all too small in the scheme of things. But ask yourself how many insects you trod on today without even being aware that you were exterminating a life.

I have never actively pusrsued placement in Google pages. Of course when it started to happen I was delighted. All I have ever done is add content to the site and write about things that interest me and are relevant to the sites subject matter - I would hate to think that isn't going to work any longer.

What is really spookey about all this is, that two weeks before May 21st, I launched my first commercial enterprise on the back of my site's success on Google. I have since had to suspend all marketing and ignore the enquiries that have come in (in the hope this disappearance from Google is temporary and short term).

I may yet turn back to religion and start praying! Perhaps I could even create a new site where you could all light a candle dedicated to St Google, patron saint of all webmasters!

europeforvisitors

7:09 pm on Jun 2, 2005 (gmt 0)



Any site that carries Google Adsense on the front page should never be allowed to list in the top 10 positions of any natural google listing. Seems to me this is a HUGE conflict of interest that Google can manipulate to its own ends just like so many other issues they currently sweep under the rug.

Sure, and General Electric (which owns NBC) could--in theory--use NBC News to promote its kitchen appliances and hair dryers.

Now can we get back to a discussion of the Bourbon update? :-)

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