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Google Guy Question: Is there any plans in the works to make the needed adjustments to this obviously erroneous index so we can get this show back on the right road.
I am not pro or con Google... I am for all search engines and want to be at the top of every single one!
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Very true. An obvious mess, even if the intentions were otherwise.
Let me see, my site can be one of the most relavant for my key phrases through many updates for years, then it totally disapears, so it becomes totally irrelavant for weeks. Now it's back for some and barely noticeable and behind a bunch of garbage, just like the countless examples being pointed out.
Makes absolutely no sense to update like this? And this time of year? Your relavant one day and not the next, and tomorrow?
It has been a total flop, very bad for webmasters, for searchers and a public relations disaster. I really hope the "brains" behind it all their gets what credit he should. After this, even if I get even more traffic from google, unlike the person above I am 100% anti-google in all financial and public ways.
Hopefully goodbye soon to google-opoly.
'splane Lucy!
When you bid for keywords(phrases) on adwords, does plurality matter?
I have spread Google to well over 200,000 people over the years through, business acquaintances, friends, at lectures, universities, over the internet, to my employees, and I have to tell you the buck stops here. My websites are however doing quite well in Google right now but its not where my sites are its how they and my competitors sites are being manipulated from your so called Algorythim.
Tell your people to drop this filter idea and incorporate 2-3000 people to manually go over the complaints Google ignores every day.
3000 * 30,000US$ a year thats only a 100th of your estimated IPO cap.
(employ them in china 3000* 3000US$)
I know i dont have a solution but if you paid me enough im sure i could come up with one
Are there any plans in the works to make the needed adjustments to these obviously erroneous indexes so we can get this show back on the right road?
I thank GG for asking for feedback.
I've been patiently looking at the SERPs since November 20th using an open-minded perspective.
I've kept relaxed because the sites that I manage for an important US real estate franchize don't depend 100 percent on the term "mycountry real estate".
I have to be fare on Google and recognize that the inner pages of the 3 sites have been ranking pretty nicely during the last 20 days of madness (thank you Danny Sullivan for finding the right term to describe the status quo).
I hope the feedback being gathered by GG will produce nice results soon.
I will like to see up-to-date Web sites showing again on "mycountry real estate" SERPs. It'll be nice to see some spammers removed as well.
Pura vida!
To say I am disappointed is an understatement.
The one way dialogue about –in I find very disappointing, I suppose it was too much to expect Goggle to give us their views or any kind of statement of intent.
There have been other threads where I have been castigated for seeing Google through rose tinted glasses whilst disagreeing with the conspiracy theories!
Need I say more!
The Google Premium Ads finish in January. That means that the two top positions above the SERPs will be available to all advertisers.
My theory is that Google realizes those two spots get at least 20% of all traffic and they saw the horrible competition Overture generated by having only their top 3 listings on partner web sites. They know that if the SERPs don't contain advertisers, the Adwords customers will have to scrap it out for positions 1 and 2, desperate to appear at the top of results.
It's going to be a bloodbath and Google will be nicely rewarded.
Thanks GoogleGuy, you know we want some answers and would appreciate more frequent updates to sooooooooooooooth us :)
though -in has now pushed over to www.
Not from here and I just checked all the data centres a few minutes ago and they are not showing -in.
What you are seeing is the random appearance of -in as just one of the data centres.
Florida is a great improvement over the anchor text madness of the previous few months, and adding back the lost sites was a good improvement on Florida, but -in seems to have done two things:
added back in total spam, mirrors and redirects
and perhaps much worse
the "authority" knob seems to have been turned way down, so that in contrast to major directories and off-topic authority sites being the weakest 20% of the results, I'm seeing a large number of totally lightweight link pages. These pages haven't the slightest hint of "authority". They *do* usually link out to major sites (mostly they have affiliate links to major entities), but have virtually no content. What pages they do have are simply link partner pages.
This is truly the dark side of valuing links out. Essentially, pages similar to linksmanager trash links pages now are being ranked for competitive terms.
Even worse, amazingly, the link pages of one spam miniweb are now outranking the pages in the web that those link pages point to! (They don't even link to major affiliate parents, they only link to mirror pages which then link to the affiliate parents.) This is an understandable problem if a CNN page links to a niche topic page, but is a massive problem if a no content link page is valued because it links to no content domains. Essentially this would mean that spammers would build mirror domains simply so they can make link pages to those mirrors.
Linking to trash is a sign of trash, not authority.
for those of you guys in the know about such things ... does this -in migrate to google or is it some beta thing they just let yall look at?
I would surely like to see an answer to this question
Thanks
Yep.. me too.
Where G wants to go with Florida, it is for me incomprehensible.
The results, also in the searches for Kwds not of my industry, considerably seem worsen, in particular in 2nd or 3rd page the relation made with the research is really low and in a few cases nonexistent.
I believe that in order to estimate the validity of a search engine it is necessary to estimate also re****s in 2nd and 3rd page, well after Florida they are poor, also for -in.
AVista, today, offers better results.
The fact that -in just came back online; and the fact that it consistently offered different results early on in Florida; and the fact Google Guy asked for feedback on the difference betwee -in and the other datacenters... all these could suggest that -in is a test bed that won't migrate to the other servers.
Or it might migrate over five seconds after I post.
-in results will take their turn as the datacenter feeding your www, but newbies shouldn't assume that means anything. If the data migrates over to one other datacenter, then that will be news.
I am pretty sure that www-in has the most upto date crawl data (fresh tagged 8th - but looks like semi-deep to me, so I am hoping sticky fresh) - and I would expect this data to go accross the dcs.
Whether the algo that is being used on www-in migrates is a different issue.
I am in the UK and have not seen www-in once on the main google.
USA and Europe still look like www is hold off -in
Like every data centre but -in
Again, there is no such thing as "moving over to" www. www is not a datacenter. What you see there doesn't matter because it is different for everyone.
What matters is if the -in data moves over to any other datacenter.
What matters is if the -in data moves over to any other datacenter.
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So what is www2 and www3? Both of these sets of SERPS show the -in set of data all the time. I thought that ww2 and ww3 always migrated to www?
