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with kw1-kw2 -sdfsd shows my sire at #37, I donot know what should I do now.
Waiting .... Waiting ........ I sick of this word. When is the next reverse revolution expected?
Aji
Simon.
Not so - fortunately for us - for our industry (travel)
We have now been restored to our pre-florida positions for 3 of our top 5 competitive keyphrases
Good news. Did you go straight back in or has there been a step by step change.
We have reappeared #45 on all data centers for the term that had us dropped from sight. I'm hoping this is just the first step.
Good luck
Sid
I think what has happened since Nov. 15 is a tranfer to Froogle database for certain keywords. These keywords are used to trigger accessing Froogle in order to display Froogle results on the page. Since Froogle was in beta prior to this, I think that the data was either partial or outdated. I think it will take a few weeks or hopefully sooner for this database to updated form the regular crawls. This would explain allot of what we have seen in the last 3 weeks.
I am still not showing for my best keywords(Froogle keywords perhaps?). But, I rank high on everthing else(Non-Froogle). Anyone else think that this has happened?
I do think there was a minor algo change, but this does not explain everthing that has happened from what I have seen.
Good luck!
I made it back to postiion 14, and now I can just push it onto page one, I will be happy.
If my site disapear again, then this will at least prove that H1 tags have an effect on the algorithm.
I have pretty much wean my self off of the free serps anyways, so I can afford to play.
However I believe, the problem has always been an unintentional bug in the Florida algorthimn. Its not totally fixed, but Google is working on it.
I have no problem with Google, playing with their algorthim, however they should be doing a lot more beta testing, and never release a major update, just before the christmas rush. The Florida update, was not ready for prime time, and this whole mess could have been avoided if they kept the testing to a few data centers, before releasing it unto the masses. I was largely unaffected, since pre christmas is the slow season in my industry, but quite a few of the members here, went through 3 weeks of panic because of this.
Please Google, don't pull off anymore Microsoft's (where the first two releases of any given product is beta ware).
The only thing I could figure is that every page was probably optimized unintentionaly for this area's map including title, description, keywords, text, alt and H1 tags. Google bumped all 22,000 pages.
Our site was never "over-optimzied" per say. We were #4 for our keywords pre-florida. Then fell to #16. We are now in the #3 spot.
I did what the pro's said to do - NOTHING!
We'll see...
i am happy with this "for now", better than last week anyway :)
Our dynamic sites are still out. Pehaps it could be because they are fairly new and the internal links have not been given pagerank yet? This Hilltop discussion would mean sites with pagerank only on a few pages among many on a site would have a severe disadvantage and would be seen as an authority vaccuum :)
Established dynamic sites might do better if Google had bothered to allocate pagerank to the internal pages.
It is a completely different loaf. IMO this is not a rollback or reversal. What happened the last 2 1/2 weeks was a major algo tweak and now we're just seeing some fine tuning of some overly turned knobs.
pre-florida: i was #1 for my search term.
during florida: index vanished
post-florida tweak: index is back, but now on the second page of results.
the waffle test still puts me # i though. "search term" -ejgkerjh
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Makes sense - hopefully some more sites will reappear on the Froogle keywords once the database is fully updated.
My site is static....
I beleive that there will be more data to come that will put you back in this spot. What you are seeing is the first wave of deep crawl data being brought into the mix.
we have not made any changes to our sites choosing just to ride this wave and see what happens...
my travel sites are still nowhere
does anyone know what tweaks should be made or should we still just wait and see?
We have noticed one site reappear CLOSE to pre-florida position .... on some keywords terms but NOT showing at all on many other terms ... if this is an early update, is it likely to be a few more days to see all the changes?
ALSO ... before today, the filter test had us at #5 and we were 170 in the current results ... now the current results show us #7 and in the FILTER test we are #11 .... can anone make any sense out of that flip flop?
There are two ranking algorithms, and they are completely separate of each other. They aren't related so the movement of the numbers isn't going to show a relationship.
I agree with you on the two algo's.
We have been working on software that allows us to sample large sets of data for analysis.
It is complicated, I do believe it goes farther beyond the two algo's.
minnapple
In this case though, the old anchor text algo is more useful internally on a site, and where internal near-duplicate content makes more sense to ignore. For example, do site:domain.com -qwerty and it makes sense for all pages to show up, including any close to the same pages for endless products. The florida algorithm is working hard to discern and eliminate duplicate content mini-webs and duplicate doorway pages, so the reverse makes sense, to ignore pages very similar to each other.
You almost conceded the existence of a filter - not a filter that removes sites but one that sends a search term one way or the other.
Are you changing your mind?
