Update Brandy Part 2

[GoogleGuy]

Continued from: [webmasterworld.com...]

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steveb, I believe the 64.x.x.x data center has the change, but I'm not positive. We use different terminology inside Google. :)

Powdork, I'm not sure if you'd call it an update exactly (different algorithms play more of a role than different data). But I'm guessing the change will probably roll out over the course of the weekend.

[wanna_learn]

LOL
Google forgot to optimize itself for KW - search engine ;-)

it stands at 4th

I never tracked this earlier....anybody knows where it stood earlier?

thats irony!

[edited by: wanna_learn at 9:57 pm (utc) on Feb. 13, 2004]

[jimpoo]

Hi GoogleGuy
I'd like to say sorry to you again for posting the thread 'What are you going to say?' which was deleted.
And now, your do mention us a lot of useful information. Please forgive me!
If you visit Toronto, I'd like to pay you a beer or Chinese dimsum, :-)

[Hissingsid]

Hi Googleguy,

Its really good to know that not only do you listen but you also act on the feedback you got. Thanks for confirming that 64.233.161.x will be moving over to the other datacentres. We can start the party early.

Did you ever receive my Austin report. I got a strange reply from Google saying something about our search engineers working on a problem with the DMOZ directory.

This update has restored my faith in a few things not least the Google SERPs.

Best wishes

Sid

[jimpoo]

Just noticed that one of my merchant site's PR boost from PR4 to PR6, and most of the backward links are from affiliate links, they are counted as backward links to the merchant's website, and these links are 302 or 301 redirection.

[GoogleGuy]

Hissingsid, I did see your feedback. I think for at least one search I checked ("static"..) it looked like things were better. I'm not sure why the ODP directory page showed up. I'd leave off the link to the ODP page if you think you somehow caused it by linking to it.

[Powdork]

ntrance,
Being new does seem to have an adverse affect whenever these changes take place as they often seem to go back in time slightly and then add in new stuff. I'm not saying everything will be fine, just that the variance seems to be greater for newer sites.

[Chris_1]

I'm seeing the new results on www...

I checked five minutes ago and saw our new placement. Not sure how long it will be up - but it was nice to see.

Chris

[howiejs]

"Being new does seem to have an adverse affect"

I have recently launched a few new content sites - decent rankings on "old" the "new" one is not as strong

Any thoughts on the importantce of links / anchor text for this "new" change

[caveman]

howiejs, it appears to me that G is crediting a greater percentage of backlinks. Possibly giving the existing ones more credit too, not sure. Either way backlinks appear to be more important in the new SERP's.

Regarding older versus newer sites, the old debate is whether older sites simply have more backlinks, and therefore tend to do better...or whether age bumps your quality standing in G's eyes. I don't know, though I've always suspected that age may play some small role on the plus side.

[Chicago]

Any confirmations or thoughts on the index still cooking?

A roll back - new algo - new data?

We are seeing new data being brought in from this morning on 64.

[Becky]

Well, this was the best news I have heard in two months! If 64.233.****.xx is the new update, my site will be back on the first page for all my major keywords!

Hooray! Hooray! Thank you Google!

[wifi on the fly]

Well if 64.****.xxx.xxx is the new update it appears as if they had to do a massive attack on spam and then with the new filters in place do some reindexing. Of our multiple sites we are mostly back in, but still the competition is pretty new. New sites that we had never seen before.

I like it for my areas. The last update really had me pushing the 8-ball trying to figure out how to fix whatever was wrong. I really didn't change anything on my sites, but I did launch a massive link campaign, but I doubt they are effecting this update at all.

What a nice thread :)

[steveb]

"Any confirmations or thoughts on the index still cooking"

From when this first appeared about 14 hours ago there has been significant jiggling around. A little while ago it seems some of the "piffle" sites I refered to earlier -- low relevance but pretending to be relevant via keyword-hyphn-domain and other simple seo -- have disappeared. Some still there though.

In other words, 64* is a bit better than it was at the start, so some change has occured and may still occur.

And just to beat the dead horse, overall another nice improvement from Google.

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Should have been "crazy janey" and "the chicken man"...

[nuevojefe]

What is 64.233.161.x? I mean why the "x"? How do I test that out?

Thanks

[Becky]

Try this link and see where your at:)

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