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Update Brandy Part 2

         

GoogleGuy

8:24 am on Feb 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Continued from: [webmasterworld.com...]


steveb, I believe the 64.x.x.x data center has the change, but I'm not positive. We use different terminology inside Google. :)

Powdork, I'm not sure if you'd call it an update exactly (different algorithms play more of a role than different data). But I'm guessing the change will probably roll out over the course of the weekend.

Allergic

3:29 pm on Feb 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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The worst update I ever seen. Nine of the first ten results on a 2 words search are spam. With Florida, it was half. With Austin it was only 2 spammy sites.

Chndru

3:31 pm on Feb 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>Do webmasterworld decide the name of an Update (Florida, Austion, Brandy ...) and all other people/websites follow it?

yup, since it was at WebmasterWorld that this naming thing started. my guess is basically brett and other powers-to-be.

EliteWeb

3:34 pm on Feb 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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webhound, over time you will see your site increase in ranking as you integrate seo into your wonderful content site. Once you get the ranking and you do the networking with the other sites you should have proper placement.

Complain about spam sites but remember in the drug industry highly seo'd sites rule and if they are gone now they will work harder to be up there so unless you change your site around you will only keep swatting off flys. But who knows with all the 'complaining' to google about sites we will see a lot more going on, im sure they dont mind as adwords will get used more as they yank out all the sites that people report. They are getting the seo community to kill themselves, report each other and so on.

Back to the results, Im still seeing widget real estate sites all filtered about with a lot of poorly designed 'city' sites holding the ranking. What gets me about these sites is they normally charge advertising fee's for anything on their site so now they will benifit from the search engines when before they already benefited because their site was about the city.

Im not too pleased with the results in the RE industry or for that matter any geo oriented searches on a subject. When people search geo they are searching for something in their community normally not wanting to find directory or other sites that dont offer a direct solution. Ok the yellow pages are neat and all but im surfing the web, i dont want to find numbers i want to find sites. If I wanted numbers I'd search yahoo businesses or the phone book.

howiejs

3:36 pm on Feb 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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"GG seemed to indicate that 64 is the new deal"

There were two 64's listed:
[64.233.161.99...]
[64.233.161.104...]

Is there a difference between the two?

And which do we think will be "real" next week .. .

(If the 64's is the new deal - most of my pre-florida rankings are back in place . . . )

Hissingsid

3:52 pm on Feb 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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The worst update I ever seen. Nine of the first ten results on a 2 words search are spam. With Florida, it was half. With Austin it was only 2 spammy sites.

Hi Alergic,

Without breaching Forum terms of use in what general topic area are you searching?

I've looked at a few folks SERPs who were badly hit with Florida and then did a lot of semantic work and have got back into the top 10 at Austin are now aT #1 on 64.233.161.99 and the results around them in SERPs look pretty good to me. These are in travel related, electrical goods consumables, specialist software and financial market searches.

It all looks very good to me with a dispationate eye on markets other than my own. I'm not saying that it is perfect but it is PDG.

Best wishes

Sid

blakekr

3:55 pm on Feb 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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"webhound, over time you will see your site increase in ranking as you integrate seo into your wonderful content site."
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Boy, I wish what SEO meant, now that OOP seems to be aggressively pushing sites down in the SERPS.

Net_Wizard

3:59 pm on Feb 13, 2004 (gmt 0)



Eliteweb,

With all due respect, webhound have a point, the sites that are dominating in that area has nothing to with normal seo practices or even the so called OOP.

The spam sites are using the oldest tricks in the books and are mostly template base and we thought that these techniques are now extinct.

On the contrary in that industry it seems to be spam is king and not content.

As to the issue of reporting it...that doesn't address the issue of 'why they are there in the first place'. Sure, Google could take down the offending site but another one will just take its place...and believe me...taking down a single spam site does not adversely effect the spam owner...it's expected.

webdude

4:02 pm on Feb 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Agree with you Sid. The semantic work seems to be the way to go. I think a straight SEOed site that is now just optimizing by inserting key phrases and hoping the key phrases are what is going to stick is a thing of the past.

Hissingsid

4:04 pm on Feb 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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There were two 64's listed:
[64.233.161.99...]
[64.233.161.104<...]

Hi,

I'm seeing exactly the same SERPs on a range of terms with the same # of results. I'd say that they are the same.

Best wishes

Sid

andy_boyd

4:05 pm on Feb 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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In my sector the results now showing on 64.233.161.99 are a lot better, but still are not as good as they were before Florida / Austin. In general, a step in the right direction.

howiejs

4:05 pm on Feb 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Any examples / info. on "semantic work"?

webdude

4:10 pm on Feb 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

Net_Wizard

4:10 pm on Feb 13, 2004 (gmt 0)



Thought this might be of interest.

64.233.161.99 - is not showing fresh tag or fresh cache with better result
216.239.37.98 - is showing fresh tag Feb.11 and have fresher cache with bad result.

sun818

4:17 pm on Feb 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hey GoogleGuy, how much of this update had to do this with this thread?

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[edited by: Marcia at 5:19 pm (utc) on Feb. 13, 2004]
[edit reason] Off topic link removed. [/edit]

brakkar

4:18 pm on Feb 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Once the update is completed, is webmaster at google.com the right email to make comments to the google guy?

Thanks in advance,
Brakkar

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