Update Austin - January 24, 2004

on DC: 216.239.37.99

[paulk]

DC: [216.239.37.99...] Major Shuffle, looking worse then ever, results look very bad, anyone seeing this?

[anime_otaku]

the serps on google.com are definately changed, but google portugal shows a much different set of results.

[amazed]

yes .de is changed and different from .com - however the indexing still seems to be going on...

[Trax]

results updated here too

[Dayo_UK]

Now this is interesting on www.google.de my Website that is missing in .com is nicely listed in 2nd place (on full web search)

The site is a .info and aimed at the UK market.....

However, the site is hosted on a German Server. Hmmm.....

[genich00]

Seems like all "english speaking" engines show the new results.
Does anyone is familliar with google .de .fr .it?
Are these the old results? I never checked my sites on those "googles".
I see a lot of junk results like some weird links istead of real sites in some cases.

[zgb999]

google.de and google.ch are showing the new results on a permanent basis in Switzerland (as often as I hit the refresh button they remain).

[johnser]

I'm seeing very stable OLD SERPs on Google.de for all my .com & .co.uk sites.

New SERPs do not appear to have filtered through.
Good opportunity for some research.....
J

[Hissingsid]

Can someone please confirm that the results you are seeing in the US on www.google.com are now exactly the same as on AOL.com.

I'm seeing pretty good relevance AOL SERPs but a mix of reasonable relevance and absolute cr*p on all of the Google DCs including 216.239.37.99.

Best wishes

Sid

[steveb]

What I'm seeing on aol are the "90%" results I refered to above... results usually showing up on 216.239.37.99 For the several things I checked these are only slightly different than the results on Google, but there are differences, and the differences seem to have changed a bit, so I'm thinking their is a micro-dance going on between some very similar result sets.

[jacuzzi]

google.de and .fr show a mixture of the new and old results. .co.uk definitely looks the same as www

[caveman]

What I see right now:

New SERP's -- Set 1:
http;//216.239.33.99/
Y*hoo!

New SERP's -- Set 2:
http;//216.239.39.99/
http;//216.239.41.99/
http;//216.239.51.99/
http;//216.239.53.99/
http;//216.239.59.99/
http;//216.239.37.99/
A*L (slight variation)

Last Weeks SERP's:
Gone?

I'd agree that we're in the 10th or 11th hour at this point. However, 11th hour changes can stil be quite significant for some sites.

[John_Caius]

For me, Y*hoo! is showing a very old set of results, with caches from a month ago or more.

<added>ah, seems to be ink results I'm looking at...</added>

[edited by: John_Caius at 4:15 pm (utc) on Jan. 25, 2004]

[Brett_Tabke]

Thanks for sticking to business everyone.

Finally seeing the results here most of the time on the www.

[rfgdxm1]

Biggest problem I see about discussing the SERPs now is that the dance isn't over. Does anyone really want to read a lengthy analysis about what I think is the new algo when by tonight possibly the SERPs will be much different? This is kind of like reviewing an opera after seeing only half of it. Let's wait until the fat lady sings.

[Brett_Tabke]

exactly rfgdxm1 - it's too soon yet.

At this point, it is just a spectator sport.

[Tropical Island]

I made a comment earlier in this thread about the fact we had an AdWord in one search term that we were previously #2.

I commented that the CTR would probably go up.

From Jan. 20 - 23 2.0% CTR.

Today 12.5% CTR.

[ap_Rhys]

At this point, it is just a spectator sport

So true. Nearest thing to a 'dance' I've seen for ages - my rankings are bouncing around every few hours. Really intriguing. Just glad that my eggs are in many, many baskets.

[Kirby]

>It may be premature but it appears to me that link anchor text has been deeply discounted. Also, on page factors have risen again but I don't think keyword density is the key. PR still seems to be of minimal value except in discerning ties.<

I couldn't respectfully disagree more. I have sites that are doing well now for certain searches that I attribute to the combination of PR, AT and keyword density.

[warduck]

I want the snowman back its even colder now.

Warduck

[djgreg]

For some of my sites I See a very very old set of backlinks. And it seems that these set is used to determine the ranking because, my site was #2 all the time, now nowhere seen.
Has anybody seen updated backlinks?

[Brett_Tabke]

> It may be premature

We aren't even seeing the same results. I've just seen 3 different versions of the same serp.

Chill out with the rants, raves, and speculation until we know which one is going to be live folks.

[encyclo]

I'm finding that google.ca (in English) is now consistently showing the new index, but google.ca (in French) is consistently giving different results than .ca English for the same keywords. The French results don't look completely like the old index though...

[Dayo_UK]

I'm finding that google.ca (in English) is now consistently showing the new index, but google.ca (in French) is consistently giving different results than .ca English for the same keywords

Yay - All Non-English Google seem to be showing different versions for Web Search than English speaking Googles.

Really dont know which way this is going to fall - but some of my English Language Websites could soon end up having visitors just from non English speaking countries :) (?)

[BigDave]

We aren't even seeing the same results. I've just seen 3 different versions of the same serp.

No kidding! I have one that I have been looking at since yesterday. It almost looks like they are applying the new algo to three different datasets.

One of them (my favorite :) ) looks totally new. Another looks very similar to the SERPs of two weeks ago, but with a couple of the trashier sites gone. And the third is the index from a month ago, cleaned up a little bit.

I'm hitting the second option the most for the last hour or so. If it wasn't for all the other action, I easily have mistaken the results as everflux.

[needinfo]

BigDave

Are you only seeing these 3 type of different datasets on the 216.239.37.99 DC?

I ask because we're also seeing 3 different SERPs on the 216.239.37.99 DC, this morning all 3 also showed up on WWW but right now they are not.

Still showing all 3 on AOL but Netscape seems to be a bit steadier.

[Marval]

One SERP set I watch looks to be consistent across al datacenters even using the IP datacenters - as well as country results - and has had a hard filter placed on it - to the extent that it has even applied to the adwords for the word - unusual but must be a biz decision

[Hissingsid]

But, overall my traffic is increased, and not from Google, from other places. I don't have enough data to see if my keywords are still being used to find my site, but I have noticed more traffic in the past few days.

Very interesting! Where abouts in the World are you?

Sorry if this is going off at a bit of a tangent but I think that the turmoil caused by the change in the Google DCs may start to affect them if they don't start to get things sorted pretty soon.

I've been having problems getting searches returned, at peak times, here in the UK, over the last few days and was wondering if that might start to have an effect.

Best wishes

Sid

[too much information]

I'm in Florida. (Yikes!)

Actually I just went and checked and my traffic has all but stopped in the past few hours. I must have been at the top of something for a while.

Also, I did go and check my logs and the shocking thing is that I have traffic from a VERY general keyword combination. (It's one of those terms you would love to bid on but you know it really wouldn't bring in any serious or useful traffic anyway.)

I'll keep an eye on what my logs are saying. Maybe it will give a clue to this whole mess.

[NeverHome]

Is anyone else noticing changed results (within the last 12 hours) on the [www-lm.google.com...] datacentre?

[AthlonInside]

I didn't really check how many sets of SERPs from 216.239.37.99 but there are at least 2 from what I see.

SO, is 216.239.37.99 just a redirect to other datacenters?