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Google AdSense launched today

New content targed ad program for content providers

         

eaden

8:39 am on Jun 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

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It's way cool :)

[google.com...]

Not sure if this should be in Google News or adwords. I guess this forum should really be the one for AdSense questions as it's about advertising.

Also, it seems that the site hangs in IE. Mozilla ( as usual ) works perfectly so use that.

Unlike the exising content targed ads you do not need 20 million visitors to put these ads on your site.

jcoronella

5:21 pm on Jun 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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What's that stock symbol again? GOOG? GOGL?

(jk)

GoogleGuy

5:39 pm on Jun 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Ah, the official revshare/potential revenue answers are evidently in the FAQ. Andrew Goodman has a post about it:
[traffick.com...]

europeforvisitors

5:44 pm on Jun 19, 2003 (gmt 0)



From what I can tell by looking at my Tribal Fusion reports, it would appear that Google is currently paying an average CPM of about $1.70 for semi-targeted AdWords banners.

(I say "semi-targeted" because the banners' AdWords are picked according to a site's keywords, not according to what's on any specific page.)

It would be interesting to see how the revenue per thousand impressions (RPM) for AdSense might compare to that $1.70 CPM. Obviously, this is going to vary quite a bit by topic and site.

GoogleGuy

5:55 pm on Jun 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Quick update on the css: it was tricky because very few browsers triggered the problem, and once it loaded once it worked from then on. I think they can reliably reproduce the css issue now, which means that an update will be pushed pretty soon. If you still see any problems tomorrow, let me know. :)

It's neat that my banner blindness is morphing into frustration that the ads I see aren't more targeted. :)

jcoronella

5:57 pm on Jun 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Well, in a VERY short term test, adsense is exceeding 1.70 cpm for me, but your mileage will vary. I imagine if I had it on a "recipes" site, the effective cpm would be under 50 cents.

Of course, revenue is likely to go down over time based on Econ 101 "supply and demand", as well as potential reduced adwords bids as advertisers learn the price-point of leads generated from adsense.

In the end, you have to choose your weapon based on your site content, demographics, and user behaviour.

europeforvisitors

6:23 pm on Jun 19, 2003 (gmt 0)



Well, in a VERY short term test, adsense is exceeding 1.70 cpm for me, but your mileage will vary. I imagine if I had it on a "recipes" site, the effective cpm would be under 50 cents.

And if you had it on a content site for luxury travelers, the effective CPM might be far, far higher--but you probably could make even more from affiliate links.

My take:

1) AdSense is a question mark for sites about topics that don't attract online sales. If you're running a site about American history or zoo animals, you might do better with affiliate merchants like Amazon.com or AllPosters.com. (And you'll be lucky to do more than cover your costs in any event.)

2) AdSense is only minimally attractive to content sites in "easy to monetize" categories that lend themselves to relatively big-ticket affiliate sales. If your RPM (a.k.a. effective CPM) is in, say, the $5-10 range, you're probably better off using affiliate text links than running AdSense ads.

3) AdSense should be very attractive to content sites in big-money categories that, for one reason or another, don't have many good affiliate programs. Cruising is a topic that comes to mind. If I had a site about cruising, AdSense might be my salvation, because most cruises are bought through travel agents (who are more likely to buy AdWords than to have decent affiliate programs).

GoogleGuy

6:24 pm on Jun 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Heh, this stuff is fun. One example (hope it's okay) where I was just surfing around:
[theregister.co.uk...]
It's a story about Orrin Hatch suggesting to destroy the machines of file traders. Sometimes you'll see AdSense ads for things like DMCA reference, digital rights management software, registering your copyright, etc. When I hit reload once or twice, I saw the banner ad that would normally run: outsource your IT to Russian programmers. Which ads would you rather see? Something tells me I won't have to argue too hard for AdSense--it can make its own arguments. :) It's weird to surf around the web and realize how badly targeted most ads are.

europeforvisitors

6:59 pm on Jun 19, 2003 (gmt 0)



GoogleGuy:

Yes, that's an impressive example.

If I could run AdSense on my site, it would help to monetize "loss leader" editorial pages that--like most editorial pages--generate very little revenue directly.

For example, I have somewhere between 100 and 200 pages on European cruising. I get a little money from the ad banners that run on those pages, but--for the most part--the affiliate links don't bring in any money because people who are planning cruises aren't in the market for hotels, car rentals, or rail passes. AdSense ads would be a perfect way to monetize those pages.

IMHO, this shows one of the weaknesses of the "one size fits all" prohibition against other text ads (which apparently include affiliate links) in the AdSense TOS/policies. On a page about European cruising, my affiliate links for hotels, rental cars, or rail passes wouldn't compete with the AdSense ads. And on a page about Bergen, Norway or Ghent, Belgium (where I don't have any affiliate partners), an AdWord ad for Bergen hotels or Ghent B&Bs wouldn't be competing with links to my affiliate partners.

I'm guessing that AdSense will have to loosen up its rules a bit as time goes by; otherwise, the program will have limited penetration in some of the most easily monetized subject categories.

killroy

7:15 pm on Jun 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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How long is teh application expected to take? I haven't heard a reply yet. And can I point them to the future layout where the ad will appear, rather then the current site?

SN

GoogleGuy

7:15 pm on Jun 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Good points, europeforvisitors. I'll mention this the next time I see someone from AdSense.
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