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Google AdSense launched today

New content targed ad program for content providers

         

eaden

8:39 am on Jun 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

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It's way cool :)

[google.com...]

Not sure if this should be in Google News or adwords. I guess this forum should really be the one for AdSense questions as it's about advertising.

Also, it seems that the site hangs in IE. Mozilla ( as usual ) works perfectly so use that.

Unlike the exising content targed ads you do not need 20 million visitors to put these ads on your site.

shurlee

1:50 pm on Jun 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Are the ads being delivered to dynamic pages? If yes, that explains a lot about the infmaous Dominic update. At least to my simple mind. You know what they say about blondes.

linkshark

1:56 pm on Jun 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I just checked one of the sites on the adsense case-study page and it seems they are serving adsense in their search results pages.

A direct violation of the TOS?
"AdWords ads may not be placed on search results pages"

[infoplease.com...]

Kinda funny that they would use a case study that violates their own TOS.

[edited by: linkshark at 2:04 pm (utc) on June 19, 2003]

trillianjedi

2:01 pm on Jun 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Nope. It's against Google AsSense T&C to disclose clickthrough rates.

That may be the case, but we'll soon get an inkling of whether it's actually worthwhile or not nonetheless.

Especially from the people who used it for a bit and then stopped.

TJ

europeforvisitors

2:20 pm on Jun 19, 2003 (gmt 0)



jchampliaud wrote:

The affiliate programs that I affiliate with all have minimum payouts in the $10 to $25 range with commissions I see as fair. So I don’t see why Google can't do the same.

The affiliate programs that I belong to typically have minimum payouts in the $50-100 range.

IMHO, $100 is a very reasonable minimum. Google isn't going to be making a lot of money from Web sites that earn less than $100 a month--especially in cases where the Webmasters require technical support or ask a lot of questions about the program and their commissions. The traditional "80/20 rule" works both ways: Eighty percent of the revenues will be generated by 20 percent of the Webmasters, and 20 percent of the Webmasters will generate 80 percent of the inquiries and complaints!

A beancounter might suggest that Google raise the minimum payment to $250, or that Google set a minimum traffic level of, say, 500,000 impressions a month. Still, it probably makes sense for Google to accept a lot of smaller sites in the interests of ubiquity. The "our name everywhere" approach certainly has worked well for Amazon.com.

jchampliaud

2:34 pm on Jun 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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europeforvisitors wrote:

$100 is a very reasonable minimum.

Not from where I sit as a Webmaster of a small site. Your site is much bigger and you might be able to get a check a month, so for you it would have possibly worked.

musicales

4:10 pm on Jun 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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One thing I hadn't really thought about in comparison to the ad networks is that this is entirely CPC. CPMs in my experience are far better at revenue generation, so much so that I'd pretty much banned any further CPCs from my site. I will be giving google a go, but actually doubt it will increase my revenue at all.

Candleman

4:28 pm on Jun 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I am not sure I fully understand the TOS. Can ads be run on pages that have been optimized for affiliate sites? If so, that is great, more potential for earning money seeing that with the traditional affiliate page if there is no purchase there is no money made. With the AdSense program all you need is the click.

As far as not knowing what the payout is, just try it for a couple of days and see what happens. If you don't like the results, remove code and end the program. Simple as that.

europeforvisitors

4:49 pm on Jun 19, 2003 (gmt 0)



One thing I hadn't really thought about in comparison to the ad networks is that this is entirely CPC. CPMs in my experience are far better at revenue generation, so much so that I'd pretty much banned any further CPCs from my site. I will be giving google a go, but actually doubt it will increase my revenue at all.

That's a valid concern, but it's worth remembering that these are extremely targeted CPC text ads, which should achieve a higher clickthrough rate than, say, a CPC banner campaign on FastClick.

And unlike CPM ads, there's apparently no limit on the number of AdSense ads that can be served each day. (The problem with CPM ads, of course, is that there are seldom enough impressions to fill your inventory. For example, Tribal Fusion caps my Google AdWords banners at slightly over 10,000 daily, or less than a third of my total impressions on an average day.)

I think AdSense is worth trying if you can find a place for the AdSense banners or skyscrapers on your site without giving up valuable sources of revenue. It's easy enough to cancel if you don't like the program: Just say "Sorry, guys" and delete the AdSense code.

GoogleGuy

5:03 pm on Jun 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hmm. I was just reading a really interesting article, and looked over at the ads on the side; it was text ads for mortgage rates. The ads had nothing to do with the article at all; kinda a bummer.

I don't know what the revenue share is, so I can't help with that. I do remember reading that the goal is to make AdSense at least as good a source of profits as other types of services/ads, so I do think that site owners who fit the bill may want to give it a try.

jcoronella

5:15 pm on Jun 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Indeed. I will reiterate, this is the best content targeting system I've ever seen. I'm stunned - honestly.

I think they call this a category killer.

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