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Over and done with?
All done all through?
I have reported few obvious spam cases such as hidden text, hidden links and Google removed them swiftly. But this was not the case in reporting an intelligent spam ring involving a network of sites, all targeting a same set of keywords. This is not as abvious a case as hidden text or links, and here is what I expect a bigger challenge to Google.
Reporting hidden text/links is rather trivial IMO. Same age-old techniques. Reporting a dozen, when there are thousands, serves no purpose IMO, and Google has to improve their algo in catching those. But the kind of intelligent spam, where I saw no action, is the way to go, so that Google can improve its spam-algo to cover more offending sites in its net.
In a nutshell if 98% of your links are recips - you lost 98% of your links. With the toolbar PR update I think they are trying to discourage link hunters.
I don't see that specifically in the newest results. Specifically I see new sites with a domain time of less than 2 years registration who do recip linking taking a hit. Most of the website recipping in the genres I frequent who have a first index in G of over 5 years are doing quite fine and are still trading links actively.
Hi Folks!
It is a loooong way from Denmark to Vegas, otherwise I will be in Pubcon bombarding Inigo with very sharpe "intelligent" questions as for example; how old are you :-)
Ok. Here is something for you who live "over there" and wish to meet and chat with Inigo. Matt wrote this morning on his blog:
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Light posting: Pubcon!
November 14, 2005 @ 12:30 am ·
I’m heading to the WebmasterWorld PubCon on Tuesday, and the week after that I’m in Kentucky for Thanksgiving, so it might take me a while to approve first-time commenters. I’ll be on a panel with other search engine reps on Wednesday afternoon.
Most SEOs should enjoy the Coffee Talk session where Brett will lob questions at me for an hour on Wednesday morning. It will be at 9 a.m., which is early (especially for PubCon), but I’m expecting lots of fun questions.
Finally, I often prowl around the lobby of the conference hotel late at night looking for webmasters/SEOs to talk to. Don’t be shy about introducing yourself. If you’re at PubCon, please come up and say hello, tell me what industry you work in, and give me any Google feedback you want.
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This is the problem Cain, I still can't see any true pattern here, if recp's/links are harming a site or not. One site I looked at was clearly involved with either buying links or doing mass cross exchanges between sites and he's not been harmed at all - trying to get a handle on this is hard work!
>>On reporting spam.
I have reported few obvious spam cases such as hidden text, hidden links and Google removed them swiftly. But this was not the case in reporting an intelligent spam ring involving a network of sites, all targeting a same set of keywords. This is not as abvious a case as hidden text or links, and here is what I expect a bigger challenge to Google.<<
Very good encouraging feedback on the anti-spam front!
Conlusion: Spam reporting to WebSpam Team is giving speedy results, and it pays off to report spam and spammers.
A BIG THANK YOU to GoogleGuy & Matt and the folks of WebSpam Team for prompt actions!
>>Reporting hidden text/links is rather trivial IMO. Same age-old techniques. Reporting a dozen, when there are thousands, serves no purpose IMO, and Google has to improve their algo in catching those. But the kind of intelligent spam, where I saw no action, is the way to go, so that Google can improve its spam-algo to cover more offending sites in its net. <<
Agreed. Well said.
Its my impression and experience too that Google needs to develope those anti-spam filters/algos to match the present level and size of spam.
GoogleGuy & Matt! are you hearing us? :-)
[edited by: reseller at 8:00 am (utc) on Nov. 14, 2005]
Anyone else feel this is over?
Not until we see same results on all DCs, stable for few days.
Its my impression and experience too that Google needs to develope those anti-spam filters/algos to match the present level and size of spam.
Kind of police and thief game. If the level of interest Matt/GG and team are showing through this Jagger update extends even after the update is over, then Google perhaps can give a close chase to the spammers.
