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Update Saga. Part 5

         

Brett_Tabke

8:26 pm on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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What say you?

Over and done with?

All done all through?

helleborine

10:24 pm on Nov 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Oh yeah?

For my 4 keyword combo 1-2-3-4 "free spinning widget plans"
NOT rolled out. Has rolled in and out 4 times. Now it's "OUT."

Combo 2-3-4 "spinning widget plans"
Rolled out 3-4 days ago, stable.

Combo 2-3 "spinning widgets"
Has not rolled out ever, new changes in J3 seen as late as last night.

I can't make heads or tails of these differences I see with the different keyword lengths I watch.

BillyS

11:11 pm on Nov 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

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False alarm Watcher..

g1smd

11:15 pm on Nov 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

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>> 64.233.179.99

That is one of the datacentres with very very ancient supplemental results in it, and that set of ancient supplemental results was also in 66.102.7.99 and 66.102.7.102 all through the Jagger updates (and is still there now).

WW_Watcher

11:25 pm on Nov 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

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O Ye of little faith

Each of those IP address goes to a load balancer, not a single box, some of the boxes in the server pools have J3, and others do not. The least busy box in the pool responds to the query, that is why it shows up one moment and not the next.

For my test I have been watching a 3 word combination, that in J2 had a single result for the keyword combo in place 6, on j3, it has indented result and takes place 6 & 7. I would have not reported it, if I had not seen it.

Back to watching (football at the moment)

WW_Watcher
Edited to remove an "e"
;-)

[edited by: WW_Watcher at 11:33 pm (utc) on Nov. 13, 2005]

Leosghost

11:33 pm on Nov 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

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ye ..only the one "e" ..

g1smd

11:33 pm on Nov 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

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>> 64.233.179.99 seems like a clean index with the junk removed, the canonicals fixed and the supplementals gone (for me atleast). <<

The lack of supplemental results for you may be an *algo* thing - the supplemental results simply not actually *ranking* for anything, but they are still there in the database.

I have some specialised searches where *all* of the returned results are supplemental - and in that experimental DC there are a LOT more supplemental results and their cache dates are all much older than elsewhere.

Across all DCs there is new data being added all the time. I see cache dates less than 24 hours old everywhere, but some DCs are not always flagging them with an attached fresh date in the SERPs.

[edited by: g1smd at 11:35 pm (utc) on Nov. 13, 2005]

cws3di

11:34 pm on Nov 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

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66.102.9.104 is showing additional Supplemental Results for one of my sites. These just showed up, I have never seen them before.

This is a mom and pop small hotel in podunk, foreign country. This site has been online since 2001, I took it over and launched a new site on it in May 2004.

At that time, all of the new was cleanly spidered and the old pages 404'd and went away. Ah, the good ol' days.

However, now here at the end of Jagger3, the old pages have come back in the site: command on 66.102.9.104 with cache dates of April 2004

How far back can G be reaching for this non-existent content! Geez! That is more than 18 months!

And yes, in Jagger3 this site has dropped from page 1 of serps in this podunk town to page 2.

annej

12:07 am on Nov 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Abigail, Are you sure you haven't been 302 hijacked? You story sounds so much like my experience during Bourbon.

How far back can G be reaching for this non-existent content! Geez! That is more than 18 months!

I just found a supplemental for a page that hasn't been on my site for over 5 years! I couldn't believe it. Where are these things coming from?

cws3di

12:13 am on Nov 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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annej, that is awesome. A 5 year old supplemental result must be a record. Maybe we should start a new thread and give out a special WW hooray-prize to the member who can claim the oldest supplemental result!

followgreg

12:15 am on Nov 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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>>64.233.179.99 ...for me this DC has glitches for the least I can say, I was doing a book related search and found out 350 sites out of 1000 results which is totally irrelevant.

>> 66.102.9.104 is an OK DC, now it's time to roll out and stop playing around IMO :)

I was very glad to see one of my usual book related sites coming back on 66.102.9.104 while other DC would surprisingly wipe it out (it's really a major payer on the market) for no reason on 1-only related keyword.

I understand the need of testing and bug fixing and QA and bravo to GG for all the follow ups and everything but I don't know for you guys but I think it's time to move on...it's been almost 2 months now.

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