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Over and done with?
All done all through?
I guess I've lost some ROI as the site I bought ads on, about 6 pages were all knocked down to PR5! I advertised on the main page and some interior pages.
I have seen no movement after being paved under by Jagger until the J3 which has maybe 4 terms (down from about a dozen) back to first page, and "above the crease".
It is not the site in my profile but another site and I'm waiting 'til the dust settles.
Do you think the site I advertised on will give me an extra month? ;) Darn I wanted to get a PR5 on my site (is PR4 now and still holding) but that can't happen w/o those PR6 page links.
reseller,
Some said (to me) that they were just polititians and full of **** but I think when you asked to have that site looked at, and they did it so fast, proves they're not just BS'ers but are serious and will do what they say. That's good news!
I have to say this is the first time I've had a spam report actioned on so maybe they are trying to clean the serps up - either way I'm grateful to them for removing the site cheaters should never proposer
>>reseller,
Some said (to me) that they were just polititians and full of **** but I think when you asked to have that site looked at, and they did it so fast, proves they're not just BS'ers but are serious and will do what they say. That's good news!<<
Agreed. Well said!
Show a complete recovery :)
WTG!
66.102.9.99
66.102.9.104
66.102.11.99
66.102.11.104
Any of you folks see something different?
Thanks.
There is a considerable amount of flux on the new DB's still. I'd rather call it consolidation, as the first pages seem to be condensing the good results.
In reference to title tags and URL's, which many of you have commented on ths past day, the <title> tag is an initial reference for search engines, and as such it helps to include keywords that form a logical phrase, unless your site is famous and beyond all that, where it doesn't really matter what you write, to a certain extent!
In reference to URL's, I have seen many .asp and template sites suffering on internal pages, because the URL relates to just a number, rather than a product or service. So, I believe that if the URL of internals also contains keywords, it helps.
In reference to duplicate content, someone commented on internal page format, and once again, the layout of the page is irrelevant, IF the content is different on each page.
[edited by: Eazygoin at 10:03 am (utc) on Nov. 13, 2005]
Thanks to Jagger, I have returned with a vengeance. I'm scoring very high for all those competitive keywords, plus quite a few more, and I'm delighted. I don't have it down to an exact science, but here are my observations of what works for me and what doesn't:
1) Duplication in titles dilutes the importance of all the keywords used, so avoid using your site slogan or similar repetition. Focus clearly and concisely on the content of that particular page.
2) If you are subdividing your site into logical and important sections then use your home page to point to and describe each section. Have a universal menu on all pages that points to home page, plus each index page of the separate sections. This establishes the importance that you place on these pages and is echoed in Google both in page rank and index placement.
3) Avoid too much cross-linking between "related pages." I'm pretty sure I tripped a filter here, and it works a heck of a lot better if I just point to the appropriate section index instead of cross-linking multiple related pages. It's as if googlebot goes merrily along, identifying important pages, then hits cross-links to not so important pages and has a hissy fit because it just doesn't understand you any more. Unfortunately, When googlebot doesn't "get it," you don't get indexed!
4) Avoid keyword stuffing. I was guilty of overusing keywords, putting my site slogan on each page, plus a keyword rich description of the page topic, before actually reaching the topic itself, which also included keywords. I'm a professional magazine writer, and this isn't a natural way for me to write, but it had become second nature when writing for my site. I was, in effect, leaving a breadcrumb trail all over for Googlebot to follow...and, in the end, Googlebot said screw the brumbcrumbs - all I want is the meat and potatoes. (My theory is that scrapers use so many breadcrumbs that they might as well make stuffing - so Googlebot has lost its appetite for breadcrumbs in general.)
5) Tighten up meta descriptions to reflect the content of the page only - no slogans or overused keywords here either.
6) Check your site for canonical problems and hijackers. If you find www and non-www issues, throw up a 301 redirect immediately and check WebmasterWorld for progress in this area. If you find hijackers...either use the Url Removal tool as described elsewhere on WebmasterWorld, or report them as spammers, whichever applies. I had to do both (and special thanks to Bear for alerting me to canonical issues, and to Dayo and Reseller for keeping me up-to-date with the latest.) I'm still wrestling with both of these but they are, at least, under some kind of control now.
7) The only reciprocal linking you should do is genuine, heartfelt recommendations of one site for another. Forget the "you rub my back, I'll rub yours" links. If you are a worthwhile content site you will get natural links. Augment that by distributing worthwhile content articles with your bio and link included in the deal.
8) Be pro-active if you find spammers in your niche appearing in the Google index. As Resellers keeps reminding us, report them. If the spammers are using AdSense, report them to AdSense as well. On one occasion, a report that I made to both AdSense, and google user support, resulted in the demise of about 10 different spam domains. These guys were appearing in the index spoofing my domain with page titles like "MyDomain specific page...url moved" then a description that said "url moved, please visit spamsite.homepage.htm" complete with fake 404s. Grrrrr....
9. Examine the successful competition with a microscope. Much as you dislike them - and I sure do dislike my top competitor - you can learn something from them! My competition site puts up hand selected links with brief descriptions as if they belong to the site itself, then describes Amazon books to fluff out the rest of the page and, from September 22 to Jagger 3, managed to beat me consistently in the index. It is still doing far too well, getting too many visitors but not much more than 1 page view per visitor (and what does that say, I ask you?). Regardless, its success in Google, I think, is because it never cross-links individual pages, (because there is nothing of substance to cross-link to) and therefore the site remains focused on section index links - where you find more of the same sh...stuff. I learned and copied her narrow navigation technique and it works. Point is...you can learn from whatever your competitors are doing, successful or otherwise.
10. Browse WebmasterWorld, and go a little further than you normally do. You'll be surprised what you will pick up. Next on my agenda is banning bad bots via htaccess, and WebmasterWorld is likely the source of the code that I will use.
11. Realize evolution on the net is inevitable and survival of the fittest applies. You can learn the skills you need on this forum, but you will also need to constantly hone those skills, and learn new ones, as Google continues its updates and the internet continues to grow.
