Forum Moderators: Robert Charlton & goodroi
Over and done with?
All done all through?
Still, it *was* lovely to see and I'm going to have another look to cheer meself up. :)
Same here- figuring at number one for one specific kw for allinanchor and 350 in the index. If I could pin down what is wrong with that page it might help. I am suspecting excessive internal cross-linking to that page at the moment.
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On topic - I was devastated by G during the July algo changes. I went from top 5 to 30 something. After lots of loud screaming and ranting I went to work fixing my not spammy site. I added content, shortened my pages and linked to new pages addressing topics which previously showed up on main page. Reworked my title and description tags a thousand times and things resolved and I made a big come back within about three weeks. I spent days making changes, revising each day after viewing and studying the SERPS which were changing daily with all heavy spidering going on. I turned my panic (really hysteria) into non stop work. I'm on "stand by" now with Jagger having dropped from 2nd place to 5th for my main KW. I'm in a really competitive niche but came through so far with no real problems. I really do feel for the guys who were hit hard this go round. I'm sure I'll get mine again. The point is - you can recover with persistence and lots of analysing and ugh hard work.
Another site (in my niche) hogs up three other related search terms #1 & 2 for all three on gg.com, but #1 only, on the new DC.
In this niche, for these terms, it looks like they've held their top slots but the ol' 1 - 2 has been stripped down to one listing only per site.
I did note that for less searched terms (under 1,000,000) they still have dual listings though - go figure?
These sites carry the same - tagline - in their title tag throughout the site like, "Compare Our Prices", "See Our Prices Now" hooked to the end of every title. It looks kind of hokey, but I don't think it really mattered, GG likes them. That's only one niche of many though.
Must be Saturday night... This party is not as heated or Jagger frenetic as usual. I think we're all worn out.
One of the sites we compete with has done very well surviving JaggerX (we have not fared as well).
The main difference I see is that they have (in addition to multiple sites linking to one primary Yahoo store) almost ALL of their HTML stored as individual files at the top level (e.g. domain.com/filename.html).
The files are named as the keyword (eg keyword.html) AND the title in the content matches the keyword with maybe a couple of additional key words added in.
Is this white hat?
Should I be doing the same?
I have seen java and other scripts (in the header) hidden in outside files, in a Y! store because Y! puts so much cr*p in the head area by default - all kinds of default Yahoo! stuff. The webmasters try to put those in lib files to clean up the header for SE spidering.
I've never seen the domain, title or keywords - the head tags - hidden in outside files though. Very interesting, maybe someone will comment on what that is?
<<< The week of Jagger 1, I purchased advertising from a PR6 site of my own niche, very relevant and showed up as backlinks to competitors (2) who also did. There's like 5 spots on each page (I bought one). They have shown nothing in my search for link:www.mysite.com and it's been at least 3 weeks! >>>
Thanks for the info. Was this from a PR6 page, or was just the site PR6? Was this for the site in your profile? - Cool niche, by the way ;)
I wasn't really interested in whether the BL was showing, as for sure it's been credited after 3 weeks. I'm more interested in comments made in part 2 of this thread, about the possible devaluation of recips, which 'might have' happened just before Jagger.
Assuming this was for the site in your profile, this was a good link, so did you notice any serp movement for the phrase in your link around 2 days after your link was posted? It's probably difficult to judge if you were volatile at this time, but I thought to ask anyway.
Sorry to sound like I'm shining a spotlight in your face, but I'm finding it hard to get info on this.
<<< The main difference I see is that they have (in addition to multiple sites linking to one primary Yahoo store) almost ALL of their HTML stored as individual files at the top level (e.g. domain.com/filename.html). >>>
A lot of sites have been doing this for a while now, as deeper pages apparently aren't worth as much as root pages -- also PR-wise. I personally think this is really shabby though, particularly as it makes it incredibly difficult to maintain large sites. I continue to organize pages into meaningful directories that relate to and match the site's navigational layout. This seems totally logical to me and good design practice, irrespective of whether or not it's good SEO.
<<< The files are named as the keyword (eg keyword.html) AND the title in the content matches the keyword with maybe a couple of additional key words added in. >>>
I recently analyzed a bunch of sites that ranked well and remained stable throughout this update, and none of them used keywords in the URLs. Actually, I was surprised to see to what lengths they went to in order to avoid this. Title keywords have been discussed quite a lot in this thread, so you might want to skip back a few pages.
Unless there's a large amount of repeated keywords, I don't think you could accuse either of these methods of being spam though.
Hope this helps.
