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Update Jagger - Part 2

         

Brett_Tabke

1:08 am on Nov 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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StriderUK

8:34 am on Nov 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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>>Sites predominanently relying on link exchanges with big recip directories got pounded in this update. I'd bet a pretty penny that might be your problem.<<

Not so with our site but we still got pounded. I will bide my whining till jagger 3 comes out. This is the way it went for us in June and it all came good in the end... so here's hoping!

WebPixie

8:37 am on Nov 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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"Sites predominanently relying on link exchanges with big recip directories got pounded in this update."

Not in my market. At least not for the big sites. The newer, weaker sites that used that method got pounded. Especially if that was the only method for links they were using. The older, more established sites that use the same methods held ground or moved up.

There are many reasons this might be the case, age, trust rank, high rankings generating some quality linking in addition to the massive non-themed link exchanging... I'm not looking into to it too much until this is settled.

Dayo_UK

8:44 am on Nov 4, 2005 (gmt 0)



fredde

Well when it takes the DB down - it is a bit of a worry ;)

I get the impression that Mozilla Googlebot is a bit like a dead page checker, link searcher or something.

Now for my site - Google might think I have a lot of dead pages as the Canonical url bug thing led to bad crawling and pages going into supplemental.

Now if these pages were indeed dead then my server would not have a problem returning 20 odd 404 pages a second - however, these pages are not dead and are connecting to a database.....anyway just another crazy theory (but maybe it is why it is so fast as it was expecting 404/410 or 301 or something?)

reseller

8:46 am on Nov 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Deester

>>Reseller,

I like the way you confidently talk about Jagger 3 already out there on its way, it gives me hope! :)<<

Thanks!

And I wouldn´t be surprised if GoogleGuy or/and Matt Cutts mention, late today or during the weekend, one of the 3 DCs (Jagger3 Front Troops) I mentioned previously as the place to look for Jagger3.

216.239.53.99
216.239.57.99
66.102.7.99

Of course they can also wait a little until the results of Jagger3 spread from the said 3 DCs to another DCs and chose to mention one of the other DCs as the place to look for Jagger3. And that will be a very "smart" move from GG or/and Matt "spanish eyes" sides :-)

Dear GG & Matt!

The next move is yours :-)

fredde

8:54 am on Nov 4, 2005 (gmt 0)



by the way, if some of you is bored and like to check exotic DCs:

[vaughns-1-pagers.com...]

Miop

9:00 am on Nov 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Just to let people know that my (serious) canonical problem is half fixed this morning, and my pages have come about half-way back. (half fixed as in when you look up non-www site, www pages are listed properly now - www pages are still mostly url-only at the moment)

Just in time before I chucked it all in and got a proper job.

StriderUK

9:00 am on Nov 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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>>Of course they can also wait a little until the results of Jagger3 spread from the said 3 DCs to another DCs and chose to mention one of the other DCs as the place to look for Jagger3. And that will be a very "smart" move from GG or/and Matt "spanish eyes" sides<<

Yes this must be uppermost on their minds, they must be thinking hard of ways to try and prove you wrong....perhaps they will delay the update or maybe even cancel?!

MHes

9:06 am on Nov 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hi

Matt said

"November 3, 2005 @ 1:39 pm

Let’s see. Multiple data centers are now showing Jagger2, but I don’t think every data center is. I believe Jagger2 is at the cluster of data centers that includes 66.102.9.104.

When he says "showing" do you think he means "live"?

.....there are some Jagger1-related changes going on at 66.102.7.104."

This suggests to me that all dc's showing these results are nowhere near the final results we will eventually see.

I suspect, when Matt refers to "seeing Jagger3" that he means "live".

216.239.53.99
216.239.57.99
66.102.7.99

as highlighted by several mambers here early yesterday, seems to have been a progression of earlier developments. Although the serps look similar to pre Jagger results, there is a development going on with those datacentres. I have slowly over the last 10 hours regained more and more rankings. If these DC's were just a kick back I doubt we would have seen changes going on there. There is plenty of evidence that new data is being fed in.

I can understand members not appearing in these DC's being frustrated, I feel your pain..... and chuckle :)

dmoz24

9:09 am on Nov 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Waiting for any changes, I have more to gain from jagger than to loose, but yes our spammy sites are going down and so are those which have been linked to a lot, but those with few good links are going up.

A few days ago in flux, there were a few datacentres which showed yahoo style results (many pages from same domain) instead of indent, but no sign of them now... What do you say folks, I think they were temporary.

Waiting for GG / Brett for any actual confirmation of updates,

300m

9:18 am on Nov 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hehe, 30 days of DC check addiction is finally making me go crazy.

I am beginning to feel like a senior citizen at a bingo parlor just waiting to scream it out.

Granted everything has been very useful in this jagger thread, but it's funny to see everyone (myself included) predicting the results.

I wonder how many people here know DC ip's by heart now.

Good Times

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