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Update Jagger - Part 2

         

Brett_Tabke

1:08 am on Nov 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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reseller

6:52 am on Nov 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Good morning Folks!

Friday 4th November 2005! maybe the day where GG or Matt "officially" aknowledge the "visibility" of Jagger3.

Personally, it wouldn´t make any difference what the kind two gentlemen will say or not will say about the visibility of Jagger3, because that has already been settled yesterday.

What is most interesting is if GG and Matt would be kind to tell us more about the kind of the new index that they expect to emerge after Jagger3. Also to what extent canonical and supplemental issues going to be resolved.

My feeling is that the new index mightbe more "human" or "warm heart" than the old one. But lets wait and see.

Wish you all a great sunny day.

Dayo_UK

6:56 am on Nov 4, 2005 (gmt 0)



arubicus

Lol - so mod_rewrite to a .php flat file just to keep Gbot slow - hmmmz (might work - not going to happen yet though)

fredde

6:58 am on Nov 4, 2005 (gmt 0)



<<Wish you all a great sunny day.

Where? Its rainy here in germany ;)

arubicus

7:43 am on Nov 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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"Lol - so mod_rewrite to a .php flat file just to keep Gbot slow - hmmmz (might work - not going to happen yet though)"

No it wouldn't work because they don't slow it down enough for dynamic pages like they could or should. Trust me...we use flat php extensions and it does not slow down. It blasts through it like it were requesting html files. Bad bots (m-bot) gets the good ol' spider control error after so many requests and times out for a few seconds (giving out an error) before allowing further requests from that bot to be processed. This spider control is managed by our hosting company and is virtually out of our control.

Dayo_UK

8:07 am on Nov 4, 2005 (gmt 0)



Thanks arubicus

I know it is not totally update related - but Mozbot coming maybe due to a change in indexing - as per the update.

Soooo does Mozilla Googlebot only visit sites that have problems though - eg Moz Bot coming to read old supplementals etc?

Anyone with a site that is Hunkey Dorey with Google and not recieve Mozilla Googlebot (eg if normal Googlebot took say 300 pages a day for a 2000 page site it would completely crawl it after a few days - nice and fresh, and then re-crawl it again after a couple of weeks - does Mozbot visit sites like that)

I am hoping that once normal Googlebot comes and indexes properly - Mozilla Googlebot might not come and visit so much.

AlexK

8:16 am on Nov 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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arubicus
Bad bots (m-bot) ... we use flat php extensions and it does not slow down

OT of course, but I am constantly amazed at the laissez-faire attitude demonstrated by so many webmasters towards this behaviour. "This G-bot has just destroyed my site ... oh well" And I know, I know, what can you do? Get mad! That's what. At least in attitude.

There was a tremendous film (had "Network" in the title) about a TV-presenter with the classic line:

I'm hopping mad, and I'm not gonna take it anymore
(repeat until falls unconscious due to brain tumour, accompanied by wild studio applause)

If our attitude is "You can do anything that you want to my site" then guess what will happen? And, once again, there is an alternative control-mechanism for those with PHP-sites [webmasterworld.com].

bears5122

8:17 am on Nov 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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we all like talking about broken search engines!

I can understand not liking the results if your site took a hit, but these SERPs are much better than what they were putting out.

Sites predominanently relying on link exchanges with big recip directories got pounded in this update. I'd bet a pretty penny that might be your problem. Fire away at getting some relevant one ways instead of whining on a board about Google tanking an area that most of us knew was going to be out about a year ago.

fredde

8:22 am on Nov 4, 2005 (gmt 0)



@dayo
dont worry, the heavy appearance of mozbot doesnt indicate any problem. i assume that this bot either checks if cloaking-techniques are used, or, most likely, this bot tries to find out the most efficient way to spider, as a kind of "calculator-bot" for the mainbot.

Eazygoin

8:30 am on Nov 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Good Morning Folks. It's a lovely sunny day here in Ibiza. I hope it is where you are :-)

Giga>

Also whats the deal with the datacenters I listed? Are they theorized to be the 3rd stage of Jagger... or old results? or just ignore them completely?

I suggest you look at Matt Cutts comments on his blog, reference the DC's that are likely to be showing results.

Deester

8:34 am on Nov 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Reseller,

I like the way you confidently talk about Jagger 3 already out there on its way, it gives me hope! :)

Deester

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