Update Jagger, Google Update Oct 18th, 2005

When can we expect a new PR update?

[jretzer]

Continued from here:
[webmasterworld.com...]

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Anyone have any guesses as to when we can expect a new systemwide PR update?

[Ankhenaton]

And Sun:

"Google and Sun to shadow Microsoft?
'Going places' Google has teamed up with once 'going places' Sun Microsystems to promote each other's wares. There is compelling logic in using Google's pervasiveness to promote Sun's cheaper alternative and Microsoft clone, OpenOffice. The latter could be quite threatening to Microsoft. Possibly Google has it in mind to offer a virtual desktop delivered via a browser. This would hurt Microsoft from both an operating systems and applications revenue stream perspective. Maybe Google might promote Sun's now open source operating system Solaris. This would enable Sun to get on with what its does well, engineering, and relieve Sun of what it does badly, marketing."

www. progressive .co.uk /newsletter/ oct05/ progressive.htm#1

Bill will fight back though ;)

[Freakindj]

Realize this

Through the offering of Hot-Spots (free internet)and the horrible results they are now displaying they would be effectively controlling peoples access

Kids catch on pretty quick

[McMohan]

Do you think its worth while removing these tags from my sites or maybe wait until Jagger is complete

I am almost certain you are looking in the wrong place for your problems, for META tags are least likely the reason for your problems. META tags are standard part of any website, and ethically so. Suggest, you wait until Jagger3 and the subsequent flux settles before making assumptions.

Best wishes

[Dayo_UK]

>>>>>Make sure you have no canonical URL issues with your main index page; that is a key point - and I am in the middle of an experiment that I think proves this point beyond doubt.

Intresting g1smd

Keeps us informed - I see that you also think it is the homepage that is key - rather than internal pages which have been indexed on the non-www.

IMO - I can see G picking the non-www homepage as the canonical - but would be amazed if it picked something like domain.com/widget/widget.html

One thing that is holding back the fix of the 301 redirect is that Google keeps the page even when you think it may be fixed - eg. If I search on domain.com it could show the result, backlink and PR of www.domain.com - but you can sometimes still pull up the non-www root on a site:domain.com -www search.

So how long Google holds onto the non-www pages (even when it appears fixed) seems to be partially the problem too.

[almar]

Reseller- you've said it best."No white hat webmaster wish to see spam on the serps. In return, we expect our friends at the plex to handle reinclusion requests from our fellow masters whos site were hit by "collateral damage" in a speedy fair way."

It would be nice know an ETA for the "collateral damage" to be at least reviewed.

[ltedesco]

I still see jagger2 only in few DCs. When is it supoused to spread over all DCs?

[JoeHouse]

What about linking strategies (reciprocal linking) since Jagger update?

I am going through a redesign and my webmaster is asking if I should include software for this.

What's the general thoughts out there regarding this?

Should I stop and just get directory and one ways?

[MrSpeed]

For those that think Google should rely less on algo solutions and more on human judgement to weed out spam
Do you have any idea what that would take in manpower? Imagine if your only job was to PM each person in this thread and say hello. You could barely keep up with that.

Now imagine trying to reasearch if a site has hidden text, sneaky CSS, belongs to the same owner, all belong to some crazy site farm etc....

Now pile onto that all those topics and niches that your are not familiar with or care about like porn, warez and imagine what the spam reports would look like then.

[walkman]

>> What about linking strategies (reciprocal linking) since Jagger update?

I have 0 recips and got slammed

[webpro00801]

I can't post a new topic for some reason so I am putting this here:

Subject: Something is seriously wrong

Well something is up - never mind that personally we got slammed pretty good for most of our SERPs. I just did a search on a broad geographic term (like "europe" or "north america") and I get a family fun site from go.com (at #7) that has nothing to do with the search term, nor is that term anywhere on said site. Sort of unreal. The only silver lining would be is that this obviously can't stay like this -

I also have a question - can I get the short answer on what exactly is the "canonical" problem? Does that mean you can not have your server configured for www.domain.com and domain.com and/or other domain names that just point to it?

Further, we have an old shared hosting account, where a lot of people still find us through www.hostname.com/myaccountname/ - we have meta tag re-directs there since we can't use other methods. Could this be hurting me?

Thanks -