Update Jagger, Google Update Oct 18th, 2005

When can we expect a new PR update?

[jretzer]

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Anyone have any guesses as to when we can expect a new systemwide PR update?

[2by4]

"After years of not engaging in exchanging links, we started again -- only to disastrous results. We also stopped accepting article contributions (we use about 5 a month at most) so the site will purely be original content."

This is what I'm talking about. I'm seeing a definite pattern here, it's not the only pattern, other people are seeing other things, that are also highly relevant, but this one, I'm seeing it too much.

So the question is, does anyone out there run a site that has ZERO link development work done on it, no link directories, no link exchanges, nothing, that has seen a major drop? And that has good quality, real, ontopic, backlinks that are created in exactly the way jd said, naturally, slowly, and pointing to real content on inner pages.

I realize that at most a handful of readers of this thread would have sites like that, but I'm curious.

[walkman]

>> Yes, it was actually more of a thought, that had to do with links that cannot be bought. When I said the links I picked up were strong... that was not a joke, I actually have more of them than anyone else in my niche, except .gov sites, and major organizations.

Interesting. I remember reading how G doesn't manually change the results, unless something is obviously wrong. Maybe this was a case of that, or maybe they tuned the algo based on the feedback. Either way, congrats, and thanks again for helping me with my apache rewrite

[vfilip]

Hotel/travel SERPs still not good.
We run a small destination site and obviously offer ones of the best deals on the Web. However, Google results consist of only large booking sites only - there are approx. 30 travel/hotel sites changing their spots and nothing else.
Each of these sites have auto-generated pages. Each page with the same keyword stuffed text such as:
"enjoy up to 70% discounts on hotels in <small destination>. We have xx hotels here ..."

also think the number of internal BL's is playing a much bigger role accounting for the 50K + page sites wiping out the smaller more focused niche sites.

I agree 100% with 2 previous posts .
Combined both posts give an a explanation why Travel SERPS are dominated by big travel suppliers with no content that have wipe out small but high quality destination oriented travel sites.

Google should pay special attention to this and try to correct it in Jagger 3 , i suppose .

[joergnw10]

Similar situation in the real estate sector, at least for our area.

[sirkei]

So, a simple question, anyone has any insight of when is this update gona end?

This thing is killing me. I am totally unmotivated by now.

[zeus]

sirkei - I will say 1-2 weeks it should be done

[jd01]

Interesting. I remember reading how G doesn't manually change the results, unless something is obviously wrong. Maybe this was a case of that, or maybe they tuned the algo based on the feedback.

It could also be that it has always been this way, and the links just started to take effect in this update. They were just starting to appear during the last one, so I do not know if there were any changes or if it would have happened naturally in this update anyway.

Justin

BTW You're welcome.

[walkman]

>> This thing is killing me. I am totally unmotivated by now.

Join the gang, but eventually you need to keep going. I was down a while back, but found the drive to redo eveything and when I was back, it was as strong as ever.

I suspect my stupidity is to blame for this drop, and hope to have a better site when I come back.

[Brian_M]

"does anyone out there run a site that has ZERO link development work..."

Yes, I built several like this in the past, and they all seem to be doing slightly better in the jagger updates, so you may be on to something…

The only problem I am having is with a new site that I am trying to fix that had numerous duplicate content problems that were created long before I came on board. This is a very difficult problem to uncover, but it's a killer, so make sure that there is no possibility of your site triggering the dupe filter in any of the SEs, both internally and externally of your site.

[Atomic]

"does anyone out there run a site that has ZERO link development work..."
Yes, I built several like this in the past, and they all seem to be doing slightly better in the jagger updates, so you may be on to something…

Ditto for me. Several sites are doing well. The only site I am involved with that purchased links dropped about 3 places on the SERPs. Most of my sites don't have links pages but a few links at the bottm of pages as additional resources and all of these sites have improved on rank and traffic.