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normally its really simple...
-find my competitors sites with the best page rank
-use something besides google to find all the links to them
-see which of those pages have rank worth requesting a link from
Without the toolbar - I'm totally lost.
From Google's perspective - "without the toolbar - that guy trying to game the SERPs is totally lost"
My $.02 - PR is dead.
Yeah there are a few people on here that dont care...those are the ones that know how to bring the positive ROI you speak of regrdless of some little green bar.
It forces webmasters to do less thinking and more trusting of a stupid green bar.
I had blogs with a update show PR5 and had not even 100 visitors a day.
Next I had a website with PR5 and have 30,000 visitors a month. Now its about 60 percent less now google delisted it. But still its better if we are all on the same page and not playing favorites otherwise the risk to bad publicity will do more than get their Pee pee slapped.
these are the cats that are not on top of their game
although i have posted in this thread i don't believe i have complained, but none the less, that is a bit of a generalisation isn't it, i mean it all boils down to a matter of "educated" opinion doesn't it? i know the value of PR, but still to see my sites with pr7's and pr8's tells me i'm doing well, why? because i know those high pr's indicate the level of linking to my sites, i don't buy or request links. That tells me that people think my content is worth linking to.
Everybody who's serious in seo looks at pagerank . Anybody who doesn't lies or doesn't knwo what there talking about.
yeah but not too long :D
Link request emails have been nice and quiet this weekend :) Could be the holiday, but I like to hope it is because the GPR is gone... even if just for a moment.
It has benefited and served the net well. It is one more tool to help nullify spammers, fraudsters and liars - people who seem to have been naturally drawn to the net's anonymity.
I am one who certainly does not mindlessly applaud Google for everything they do. But in this case I say "bring back the green bar".
I look forward to its return!
And a ton of guessing and wild speculation for everyone else.
After reading this stuff, seeing how many buy into totally unsubstantiated BS, and reading the email I'm getting from frantic "webmasters", I am beginning to understand steveb's postulation that the death of displayed PR will only give rise to an industry of seo snakeoil salesmen that will dwarf the link merchants.
I don't know how the G-PR bar actually works, but doesn't the extension or toolbar have to make a
SEPARATE inquiry to G to get the data?
If so, then maybe all those extra queries put too much of an extra load on their servers / bandwidth.
Since there's no obvious payback, cutting out toolbar PR might just be a simple cost / bandwidth saving
stragegem. Their internal (real) pagerank would remain in place, subject to algorithm tweeks,
and hidden from all in any case. Any thoughts on that? -Larry
Google is a public company now ... they don't go making major changes to their system without a press release. Millions use the Google toolbar, not just webmasters, so it's highly unlikely that PageRank would be phased out of the toolbar without an announcement. Besides, many of us in this forum are Google shareholders and if Google had planned to drop PR we would know about it. This is a temporary situation or an upgrade, not an elimination.
Also keep in mind that Google still has numerous references to PageRank on their site, including the "PageRank Explained" information on google.com/technology. If they were doing away with it, that page wouldn't be there anymore.