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"infrastructure, not update :) "If Google would've said that, great. But they didn't so an update was assumed.
It was a long weekend in the US. People were expected to be out and about on the first long weekend of the summer, rather than using the internet. Major server upgrades/whatever are scheduled for when traffic is expected to be low. The toolbar PR was down for a few days while work was being done, nothing terribly out of the ordinary. This non-event resulted in a forty page thread at WW.
Think what you like of G, (I consider it a monster, myself), it's not really incumbent on them to issue a major press release every time they do some work on a part of their gazillions of boxes. If people want to jump to wild conclusions when it happens, that's not G's responsibility.
Let me ask, did anyone bother to check their logs to see what Google has been doing lately?
Since I've been checking my logs as of last August, only Dec. of 2004 had more activity. There were 3 visits that month and I received my first (of many now) PR5 pages. This site was put up new last May and the home page of this site is now a PR6.
As of the 17th of May, I had 3 visits by the Google PR engine. The 14, 16, and 17th.
This would not have been done if they were thinking about doing away with PageRank, of that I'm absolutely sure. What I do think will happen shortly is that we will see the update that's coming, good or bad.
I for one enjoy seeing the PR bar as it reminds me of the work I've put into this site. Also I am more apt to shop or trust higher PR sites. (for the most part)
Good luck to all and this has been an "interesting" thread to say the least.
After all being canadian I don't have to worry about one or two bumps in america. Canada will still love me when I get back.
Since when did a search engine control your lives?
Google's little green bar went down.. so what?
You know this thread is alittle more than scary..
It's like the world would stop spinning if Google was down.. We have a thread that is hundreds of posts deep because of a little green bar... what do you think would happen if the results were down? Would the sun not rise in the morning?
Every day that goes by this keeps looking more and more like AT&T in 1983-1984 .. or Standard Oil of 1910-1911..
(at least from where I'm sitting in the southeaster u.s. of a.---crap, thought I was the first on that one)
Kbleivik
"Good enough is best."
Since when did a search engine control your lives?Google's little green bar went down.. so what?
Maybe you have right but who wants to go back to stone age not me for sure pr for me is a tool and its <b>free</b> what else you want!
I think GoogleGuy has just been to the office and put the plug back in.
Nope, folks were already getting the toolbar PageRank re-displaying without me prodding them. It should be on everywhere in a couple more hours or so.
This is just plain old normal toolbar PageRank--no trustrank or update to the visible PageRank. I wouldn't have expected 400 posts over a (U.S.) holiday weekend because people couldn't check the green bar; I'll ask a few engineers to try to minimize the length of anything like that in the future. Dayo_UK, yup, officially it still is my vacation, but it seemed like a good idea to chime in so people wouldn't overly worry until PR became visible again.
Toolbar PR is working again.
dang it - my evil plan download Google's version of the DMOZ with pagerank info - then sell the data back to webmasters trying to figure out who to request links from is foiled.
People trade based on what the green bar says. Google put it there in the first place, and everyone bought into it, so I'm suggesting that Google is controlling site owners actions. Quite logical I thought.
Although you personally don't have to download it or buy into it - quite clearly others have! Flatter anyone and you can control them to an extent, especially when PageRank basically means some sort of status, and business is done purely because of Pagerank. I think it's a bad call to do business or swap links due to a little green bar, but millions don't.
Google has flattered websites that quite frankly don't deserve the web space, and the proof of that flattery is on every site you see. Some flattery is well deserved and some just isn't, but Pagerank is just a tool that aids a VIRAL marketing ploy, and everyone bought into it.
Very clever and it fooled everyone into thinking that they were actually getting something great for free.
I call that dirty, but if people really think that any site with a say PR of 2 cannot deliver, then their crazy. But people do obviously feel that way - they've no proof that companies can or can't deliver, but they seem to think that Google somehow knows this. And all because of a stupid green bar.
This thread is proof of those fears and feelings - is that not Control now?
Still whatever people decide one things for sure - Google wins! Maybe at others expense in the future.....
Oh... wait.
That really is a banned site...
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That really is a banned site...
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My site too, but not the much newer and not so useful Norwegian sites. I use pagerang as one among other criterias to collect international links. I also use my eyes. Does GoogleBot see the difference between a seagul, a crow, a cloud or an areoplane? But the green bar indicates the maturity of a site. A site with the green bar 1/3 or more filled, says that it is not the risk that it is a spam site, but who knows? The mafia may have a lot of mature sites. What about content? I index sites, GoogleBot index pages. I have nofollow and noarchive in my metatags still.
I use Google "Safe search" as the top search engine on my index (front) page. Do you have a better proposal?
Kbleivik
"KISS=Keep It Simple Stupid".
