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Although PR selling is a bit shady you have got to feel sorry for staff of these companies who are only doing a job.
But that is a big if
I still think there is more than meets the eye to all this - and the Bourbon update.
But it would still be nice for it to be known either way so that companies can start acting for the best interest of their staff.
Because PR has little to do with tha ability to sell on the web, a company would have a hard time growing a business that sells PR. Sure, they can find suckers to buy the service - but once the suckers realize PR is not the key to beating the competition, they move on.
Just hoping.
Google: "Give it back"
Gaining quuality theme based links would still be going whether page rank or no page rank
From quite some time i was observing there is no effect of pagerank in SERP'S. A Site/Page with less page rank is ranking higher than a site with Good Page Rank. This must be an indicator to say that Page Rank dosen't exist, or it is invisible now. Any one with similar experiences?
PR shows how well linked the page is, and SERP depends on the given keyword and the content of the site that matches that keyword most closely.
they probably figured out a way for them to get paid for pagerank instead of webmasters
come on - that would be corruption, like a professor selling test questions.
For the sake of cleaning up the SERPS I say do away with it.
For that sake of an SEO bring it back with a degree of accuracy.
For the sake of Joe surfer....at least we wouldn't have to explain what the green-o-meter actually represents :)
i have seen many pr 0 or 1 sites rank well over page rank 7 and 8 sites
I am myself a Search Engine Optimizer and i have optimized many sites in the past which has PR between 0 and 3 and their competitors had page rank of 6 and above
I just made quality backlinks for those site rather than really caring for the page rank of the links page
Gaurav
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[edited by: tedster at 4:08 pm (utc) on May 30, 2005]
Without the little green bar, perhaps all the geniuses who based their businesses on selling links form sites with "PRX" will now have to actually use something more concrete - like actual traffic statistics.
I wonder how much sleep the text link /PR brokers have gotten this weekend. What a shame....
In my mind, we need to recognize this as a reminder that effective, long-term marketing (the only kind that's actually helpful in most cases) is based on fairly simple principles: relevance, targeted demographic reach and of course, ROI.
Google's algo may have been a PART of that strategy, but it should certainly not be the lifeblood of internet marketing.
Besides, Google has been so busy trying to re-invent itself for a variety of reasons (seo manipulation, trying to appease investors, continually updating adsense/adwords to improve performance, etc.) that it's actual performance as a SEARCH engine has suffered.
Personally, I find Yahoo Search, and sometimes even MSN search far more accurate and relevent for most queries.
That alone should flare up red flags all over the place. Sure Google is "god" now... but even Google will not survive if it doesn't do it's job.
Just a few thoughts...
-C
But considering that half of the webmasters that have bought links for me are now saying I'm banned and they won't buy links from me again don't know squat about PR and it's effects on SERP's, I'm begging to freak out a little bit!
I am willing to bet that for every webmaster that knows this is not the end of the Internet, 10 others will start scraching their eyeballs out thinking they have been banned and won't get a paycheck next month.
Although my sites aren't big shots, I wouldn't mind a little bit of courtesy from Google telling us what is going on (you know, from one net business to another).
Let it die a qucik death...and take all the PR sellers with it.
I don't sell links for their PR value, but many webmasters buy them just for that! I actually base my price on the number of unique views a certain page gets - and I think many good webmasters do the same. After all this is the logical thing to do from my point of view.
[edited by: cflorin at 11:12 am (utc) on May 30, 2005]
The most advantage of it is to destroy of 'fake' authority and hierarchy. Every site is born to be equal. No PR values would make for changing links easier than before. This would send webmasters back to focus on construction of their own websites.
Did you notice it?
I have had pages crawled on the 20th that no longer appear in the index....(Ok- pages come and go and I should expand on this but going out now)
Its all a bit weird
[edited by: Dayo_UK at 11:34 am (utc) on May 30, 2005]
Although it is a little disconcerting to think about all our visitors who have the toolbar installed to suddenly think something has gone drastically wrong with our site and it's no longer any good...
I don't sell links for their PR value, but many webmasters buy them just for that! I actually base my price on the number of unique views a certain page gets - and I think many good webmasters do the same. After all this is the logical thing to do from my point of view.
likewise, i sell advertising space which some advertisers choose to put textlinks in, obviously they are after the pr aswell as the traffic i send them, it would annoy me if they left just because pr has gone and imagine if PR really has gone then i will lose some, but as i said i send them lots of traffic they are getting a good ROI, the sensible ones will stay (i hope :( )
