Forum Moderators: Robert Charlton & goodroi
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The same down-and-on problem here in Turkey.
But j3 goes on and off. No steady results. At least three different sets:
216.239.63.104 (I think with additional tweaks)
64.233.161.104 (still J2)
64.233.179.104 (J3)
also: how can you believe the test DC is the future? it shows non-existing pages in the results and often shows very old cache.
also, the number of quality pages of my sites indexed decreased, although we added plenty of new pages recently.
the number of results is huge, that's right, but only because they will start kicking the sites out of them. finally, is there any difference between 143280938587658967 results and 1295657 results if you can only see the first 1000?
>>come on reseller, where do you see a shining day? it's dark and sad here<<
"If life seems jolly rotten,
There's something you've forgotten,
And that's to laugh and smile and dance and sing.
When you're feeling in the dumps,
Don't be silly chumps.
Just purse your lips and whistle.
That's the thing.
And... Always look on the bright side of life." :-)
>>also: how can you believe the test DC is the future?<<
I don't. Therefore I wrote in my previous post:
"And as such, I think, we shouldn't expect the current serps of the test DC to stick around for a long time. " ;-)
OK - Well done to Google for seemingly being able to crawl some homepages again after a long absence - whether this is to do with an improvement in canonical issues or being able to follow the 301/302 redirect (eg as MC mentioned G are getting closer to and working on crawling the destination url)
It is just these re-crawled pages dont rank anywhere - even on an internal site search - just outranked by supplemental results and often being the last returned result in the site search.
GG has talked about decreasing and increasing reputation of pages so perhaps these pages now they have come back need there reputation increased - and this might happen as time goes on - eg now/if the destination url is being correctly indexed it will take a while for PR/BL benefit to filter to the site?
I dont know - just one of my crazy theories.
On a side note I have had 1 very small site completely return to the serps on this test dc - ranking amazingly well - this had the same symptons of other sites that were missed by Google for a year or so. On this site www.domain.com www.domain.com search the recently crawled pages are top - the supplementals (which are decreasing) are bottom.
So perhaps we are still playing the waiting game.....
It is all quiet on the western front.
>>It is all quiet on the western front. <<
Its because GG & Matt have left early this week to the eastern front :-)
>>GG has talked about decreasing and increasing reputation of pages so perhaps these pages now they have come back need there reputation increased - and this might happen as time goes on - eg now/if the destination url is being correctly indexed it will take a while for PR/BL benefit to filter to the site?<<
Sound very interesting!
>>I dont know - just one of my crazy theories.<<
By now you have compiled so much knowledge about all aspects of the canonical issue, you should be able to write a best seller:
Secrets of Google Canonical Issue Revealed
By Dayo_UK :-)
Hey GG are you on a long Xmas Holiday?
I really don't think that GG or Matt can/allowed to tell us much at present other than they are still doing test on the test DC.
But from the feedback of fellow members on this thread, we should be able to gather some facts and understand to some extent whats going on.
"Hey Mr. Re-Seller
Where have you been
Tell me have you DC's I can see
I'm asking you if I could fix a rendezvous
For your DC's are all I believe"
Oh you can't use "look on the bright side of life" anymore as Coke have a similar phrase for their new "the Coke side of Life" ad campaign.
2 word keyphrase gave me this.
[64.233.179.104...]
Results 1 - 10 of about 13,300,000
[66.249.93.104...]
Results 1 - 10 of about 4,690,000
Obvious thing i noticed was the amount of results returned, nearly 3x. The other thing i noticed was the missing authority site(s).
On 64.233.179.104 my page sat at #1
On 66.249.93.104 my page sat at #8
Im not bothered where my page sits but i would guess a page from the IMDB should come before mine and to be honest if it didnt I'd think something was wrong.
when i made the search using a 3 word keyphrase the top 3 on both matched and of the remaining 7 results 5 were completely different.
will we ever know what g is up to? we could sit and look at this DC today and tomorrow it could all be completely different if they decide the test is over.
The link is there for me.
Reseller
You said earlier that feedback is already provided here therefore MC/GG may not actually officially ask for feedback.
I dont think that is the case - although feedback here is good the guys at Google would want to look at some real world examples - eg sites, keywords etc. Therefore when Google are ready they will do doubt ask for feedback with the term "Big Daddy" ;)
>>"Hey Mr. Re-Seller
Where have you been
Tell me have you DC's I can see
I'm asking you if I could fix a rendezvous
For your DC's are all I believe" <<
Hi John
Here is something for you..my friend
[64.233.187.99...]
[64.233.187.104...]
I hope you like what you see. Otherwise I will "fix" another DC set for you :-)
>>Therefore when Google are ready they will do doubt ask for feedback with the term "Big Daddy"<<
BigDaddy was supposed to happen last week, which wasn't the case.
For this week the feedback term is DaddyCool :-)
I posted this on another forum and noticed yesterday that 2 keywords i watch (i use them to gauge a particular website) Jumped from 40-50 million results to 121 million on one keyword and 189 million on the other. For me thats fine because I am ranked in the top 3 for both terms.
Then just a few minutes ago I caught wind on the DC that is showing this stuff and checked 2 other extremly competitive keywords and, the index that use to be 80-90 million jumped to over 200+ million results. Again, I am happy with it because I am ranked in the top 2 for those specific terms.
So I guess if it going to stick, I would not mind it.
Whats funny is that yesterday I was excited about coming in the top 3 for terms over 100 million results, but now being in the top 3 for 231 million, just makes me even happier.
The jaggers nearly destroyed me, prior to it, i was doing well, but during i was sinking all month, until j3 rolled out.
"http://64.233.187.99
[64.233.187.104...] "
Cleans up one of our sites that appears as completely supplementary on some the DC's.
Otherwise keywords we are strong on still strong - one's we are weak on - even weaker Boo!
Non relevant to search sites start creeping in on about #30.
>>Reseller:
[64.233.187.99...]
[64.233.187.104...]
Cleans up one of our sites that appears as completely supplementary on some the DC's. <<
Can you elaborate more on that? Thanks.
Hmmmz - MC probably just got excited (bless ;)) and hoped that G were ready for feedback last week.
Either G are not ready for feedback or the dc is not ready for feedback.
Hopefully it is the Test DC (aka Supplimental Hell/Root problem DC - mind you a lot of DCs could go for that award.)
Noticed that this test centre likes the sites home page rather than the internal specific pages and gives more weight to authority sites
No idea what they are testing
webmasters patience
The Mozilla-Bot index!
We have one - new unimportant "play with this no harm done" - site that on most "live" DC's every page is listed as supplemental for site:www.domain.com
On these two DC's and a few others pages come up NOT supplemental for the site command.
Interesting bit- when pages show as supplemental when click cache link get an error no cache available, when not supplemmental cache date is 06.12 and cache shows.
I give up...OK not as interesting as "Rolling Stones at Wembley in August" - wait until I see that Jagger guy..
[64.233.179.104...] (j3?) returns 49,000+ pages
while
[64.233.161.104...] (j2?) returns 882
Good things in store for me?
>>cool. All my pages now seem to be on Google.com. Before it was a joke...I had only about 200 <<
Whats the IP of your google.com at the moment?
Thanks.
