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As for the senior members, I meant it as a question to those in the business for a while, not so much amount of posts. You def qualify!
On a side note, I've noticed that my top 2 competitors have stayed in their positions yet have changed the way they detail their title, description and keywords. One of them left out keywords altogether... Anyone else changing this stuff on their sites and seeing good results?
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Google is dancing and it is dancing to the beat of my tambourine. For all those affecting by the sandbox, I see many are resurfacing and resurfacing strong for huge keywords.
Your tambourine, and my recorder.
On June 16, at the tail end of the Bourbon update, one of my sites disappeared from most SERPS, and my Google referrals dropped to near zero.
Now, since about mid day yesterday, I am back in the SERPS, with many top-ten rankings, and a good number of #1s. My Google referrals are up by several hundred percent. Hope this lasts. Keeping my fingers crossed.
I don't know if a "penalty" has been lifted (perhaps in response to e-mails I sent to Google last month), if the many, many changes I've made in the past 30 days are now taking dramatic effect, if this is a routine post-Bourbon adjustment, or if a major new algorithm update is underway.
Anyway, I'm coming back. There does appear to be life after The Bourbon Death.
[edited by: Clint at 3:23 pm (utc) on July 22, 2005]
I am not a professional, and even hardly be regarded as an amateur. I am trying to learn basics to handle my own site(s), and regularly reading forums here.
I have a dozen domain names registered and locked for future use. All are inactive, and hence not indexed.
One of them, a domainname consisting of two words (one non-kw + one kw) got a decent PR5 with the last PR update! And consistently!
It is not active, it is not indexed, and when the url is typed, you get a parking page saying "welcome to your future page," and yet it has a PR5 consistently.
When you check for BLs, you get some 40, no one containing an actual link or any of the words contained in the domain name.
An inactive domain name with a single parking page has a PR5 and some backlinks. Even, when checked with PR checkers, they show a PR6!
Are there anyone who have had similar experiences?
Another question? It is clear that this is a bug. But being over-excited, I jumped to buy a cheap hosting service to activate it (not activated yet).
Now. Should I add some content and activate the site? To take advantage of the bug?
I am really confused.
I'm still seeing DAILY changes in the G SERP's for many of my monitored phrases
Google's been doing rolling updates for a long time now (at least a year if I remember right). The updates usually carry much broader changes and have a bigger impact, but there are SERP fluctuations everyday. Nothing to worry about on this front.
When it comes to fluctuating SERPs, try not to panic. Work on your long term strategies. Each major update can bring about some minor tweaks in your long term strategy, but a good long term strategy will work through all updates.
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This site was launched 2 months ago, it was PR 0
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Google's been doing rolling updates for a long time now (at least a year if I remember right). The updates usually carry much broader changes and have a bigger impact, but there are SERP fluctuations everyday. Nothing to worry about on this front.
Yes, but what I'm saying is the G-SERP's for these monitored phrases of mine have never changed before, and for the last several weeks and daily, they have been changing.
Ok, where you are showing "0", I'm showing my HIGHER PR figures (which is the old PR in my case). My G PR toolbar shows the LOWER figures of my sites. So I would guess your toolbar shows the HIGHER of your sites' PR. Now if we can only determine which of these DC's will hold.
Too bad that one doesn't give a PR.
what I'm saying is the G-SERP's for these monitored phrases of mine have never changed before
Never? Never's an awefully long time...
The rolling updates will affect different SERPs differently. It can be that one update cause huge upheaval in one SERP while leaving another completely unnafected.
In either case, the rolling updates have been going on for a long time so it's well within the expected behviour from Google, regardless of whether your SERP has "never changed" or not.
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It'll all sort itself out eventually and the rest of our sites saw improvement or stayed the same, so I'm certainly not stressing it. I just find it odd that our site with the cleanest link strategy is the one that dropped...
One thing I do know is that trying to "please" Google is a dead end street. Sort of a one night love affair. I noticed with a few sites now that they "fall in love" send you a huge amount of traffic and then drop you. After a month or a few month you start to show up in the SERPS again.... No love affair anymore... just good friends...
Hans
Doh! 400+ useless posts on a PR event - I don't get it. Why can't you smoke better stuff instead of wasting resources?
Actually they only changed once for me, in Nov. '03 (which I think was "Florida"?). Other than that one time, I never saw any changes in my SERP's, until May 21st and since then they'll changed several times a day.
On June 16, at the tail end of the Bourbon update, one of my sites disappeared from most SERPS, and my Google referrals dropped to near zero ... Now, since about mid day yesterday, I am back in the SERPS ... I don't know if a "penalty" has been lifted (perhaps in response to e-mails I sent to Google last month), if the many, many changes I've made in the past 30 days are now taking dramatic effect, if this is a routine post-Bourbon adjustment, or if a major new algorithm update is underway
Exactly the same here. This has happened to me twice now. My personal opinion is that this has nothing to do with PR or changes in the Google algo, but is due to changes in the filters applied.
I suspect I have accidentally exceeded some criteria (or criterias) that Google uses to determine "natural" sites from spammy or over-optimized sites. I have now made changes to make sure the site fits in to a more natural profile.
The affected site made extensive use of thumbnail image indexes, and for usability purposes I included descriptive text in the title= and alt= attributes in the img tag. But as there are may thumbnails on a page, Google may have considered the amount of text in these attributes too great compared to the amount of text visible to a user. So all I have now is alt="".
I also removed all H2 and H3 tags because that may have been seen as keyword stuffing, and now just have a brief H1 tag.
But whether this has brought my traffic back, who can say?
[added] I also removed all print versions of my text pages. Although these were banned (noindex) to SEs via the meta tags, from time to time they reappeared in the Google index. But I was mainly concerned that Google may have considered the proprtion of "banned" pages too high for a natural site. [/added]
How long it will take Google to update internal pages PR?
If the inner pages are not showing tool bar PR now, they probably will not show it until the next tool bar page rank update which could be a few months from now.
