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Im using an online PR checker tool and the IP posted in a previous message to see the changes to come.
Looks like a resonable update, although almost all my sites have remained the same (but I guess I've not made to many changes!)
All in all, I'm seing newer sites getting what they deserve - first time in over 1 year! are the old google days coming back? (probably not)
Could it be that the PR we are seeing updated today is the PR used during Bourbon?
Two of my sites that had their PR moved from 5 to 0 just before Bourbon (the April 22 PR update) have now got PR back. Both are now PR 4.
Since Bourbon happened about a month after the last PR update, it could be that we will see another SERP update in about a month.
If a pattern developed it might be useful in predicting future PR, algo, SERP updates.
BTW how do you go from PR 5 to 6? I'm stuck there, is just collecting more links the way to PR6?
How can I determine how many do I still need (years of work? months? decades?)
All internals have gone from 0>2
A secondary domain on a 301 to our primary domain has gone from 0>3
SERPs are up but they have been, day on day, for about 2 months. They're rarely static, but the content is ever changing so makes sense.
Not very high PR but constantly improving rank so no real complaints. Got some high quality, themed, one-way links on high PR pages - Surely that's the ticket regardless of the green.
Haven't heard much of the word 'trustrank' lately. G still reviewing sites to seed this alleged alternative?
joined:Apr 24, 2005
What I don't understand is that although I can see my traffic jumped by about 15% overnight - for two days now - I don't seem to be doing any better in the SERPs than I was before.
<quote> The consensus here seems to be that toolbar PR is 'real' PR but with a time lag.
Could it be that the PR we are seeing updated today is the PR used during Bourbon?</quote>
In some cases possibly, in all cases certainly not - the reason is that many new sites that did'nt even exist when the bourbon was happening have obtained PR. It just goes to show that either there the PR we are seing today is at the very most a couple of weeks old, or some sites are treated differently (in that some sites PR is outdates, but other are not).
I'm seing very strong evidence to suggest that this PR update is very close to accurate - and very up to date.
The only problem is I'm still not seing the TBPR updates yet - only via online checkers.
My main site dropped from SERP 6 to 25 with Bourbon whilst the toolbar PR had gone from 5 to 0 a couple of weeks before.
Now the PR is at 4 I would expect my SERP to be back in the top ten for the next update.
joined:May 21, 2005
Ouch. My other quality pages have no PageRank at all.
joined:May 21, 2005
Both, I think.... But I'm not sure what you mean by 'internal link structure'.
I am a bit worried now...
>I am a bit worried now...
The internal link structure will determine how PR flows through a site. Changing this can alter PR, particularly if specific pages. If I have a site where there are lots of links from other sites to internal pages, if I link all those internal pages to the home page direct, this will mean high PR for the home page. If I alter link structure, the home page may go down in PR.
Are you certain the 900 are all different links? Could they be different post urls on a blog that have expired or pages from your own site url that you removed or something else?
Supposing what you say about the links is accurate, I would say there is a possibility of the next update bringing you back to where you were before yesterday.
As Kufu said -
"everyone seems to forget is that simply having a high PR is no good if the traffic isn't there. Personally I'd rather have a PR3 and high traffic, than a PR6 and very little traffic."
There is no way to accurately determine how many days /months before.
This update (by the way what are we calling it, I liked what RB said) there are a lot or internal pages that are only a few days old that already have PR. Same is true for some brand new domain names.
I would say if your inner pages do not have PR now then they will not until next update, but give it a few days to make sure (Google Guess)!
Appears to me that the SERPs were updated a few days ago between the 10th and 13th of July.
There should be minor fluctuations in SERPs like usual a couple times a month until the next large update.
This update (calling it what?) took from end of June until now and still appears to be updating.
Much more interested in that a site which I monitor now has the same PR on the non-www and the www.
Also, In my experience often after a PR update Googlebot goes into overtime.