Forum Moderators: Robert Charlton & goodroi
I've done nothing funky or any crosslinking between sites.
any suggestions would be great!
thanks
This is what I don't understand...why do you blindly assume anyone who sells links bases their whole business around that?
i don't
i commented about people getting so excited about a little green bar that (in the grand scheme of things) doesn't really mean a great deal - you said it was important because you can make "thousands" by selling links based on PR - you gave no other explanation for all the excitement over the little green and white bar ..........
no blind assumptions there from me - just accepting your reason (singular) for the excitement over PR.
if you have any other reason for getting so excited and volatile about PR, please tell!
I have 20 or so sites all with pr around 3 - 5 but recently 4 of the sites went to a white bar. Should one be concerned or just wait for the next pr update?
turn the toolbar off for a few weeks, go write more content etc etc etc - remember, google isn't the only search engine, google isn't (or shouldn't be) your only source of traffic ............ focus on your business rather than the little green (or white) bar
Um, the point again, is who cares? Buying and selling links is like the shoelaces of the value of pagerank. It's not even worth talking about. Pagerank is the mathematical expression of an aspect of link power. People who can't attract it one way end up buying it, but again that is totally trivial, a puny aspect of business on the Internet. The main value of pagerank is not in the supply and demand of selling; it is in the using of it. Pagerank's value is in its utilitarian usage in directing it around your web properties in a way that maximizes your earn via free search results.
"I've noticed in your posts that you seem to think that your the only one that "gets it.""
Uh, no. I noticed that some folks, like you here, simply have to have everything black and white, regardless of how illogical and foolish that is. Try and grasp the concept of "some". There is a whole spectrum out there, whether you aknowledge it now or not.
"The true irony here is that you don't believe others can think beyond the limits you've set for yourself."
It seems the irony is you can't even see what the discussion is about because you have locked yourself in this all or nothing space. You can believe what you want, but I'd say black and white won't serve you well. The shades of grey are where life actually takes place.
Buying and selling links is like the shoelaces of the value of pagerank. It's not even worth talking about.
No steveb, you're wrong again. The value that is placed on selling PR is exactly equal to whatever use they are put to. Let me spell it out for you.
If there were more than one genius in the world that truly understood the value of PR, these two people would bid up the price they are willing to pay for PR. All of its uses are embedded in the price. This is economics 101. If everyone thought it was worthless, then the price would be - worthless.
If some genius were able to figure out they had more value than simply buying and selling (not sure why you'd think we can't think beyond that), then the price would be higher. Get it?
Let me give you a simple example, then perhaps you'd understand...
People buy art for a variety of reasons. At the two extremes, some like the pictures, others collect for investment purposes. Regardless of how pretty the picture is, its value takes all of this into account. A famous artist can scribble their name on a paper napkin and it has lots of value. An unknown artist can draw the most beautiful picture in the world, but unless someone is willing to buy it, it is worthless. Get it?
If it were more efficient to buy PR than create it, then people would do it. To some it is easier to buy it so they bid up its value. How they use it is up to them.
Just because some posters think that PR is valuable for one thing rather than another is worth talking about. But to boldly say that the value goes beyond an efficient market place - you're wrong. That is exactly its value and should be recognized as such.
If Google deemphasized PR in its algorithm, then the value of PR would likely decline. But would it go to zero? Probably would not because some of us can think of other uses. The going price of PR tells us about popular opinion. It gives us hints that we should pay attention to.
And by the way, this topic is about PR, if you want to discuss a marketing topic, then you need to post somewhere else.
It is absurd to think a PR6 link to or from a yarn page has the same static value as a PR6 link to or from a pill page.
"If it were more efficient to buy PR than create it, then people would do it."
I can't even imagine how you could type that.
"Get it?"
I'm afraid you don't, by your own examples.
"If it were more efficient to buy PR than create it, then people would do it."I can't even imagine how you could type that.
Used my fingers. Now use your brain. Figure it out. Just another example of how you’re limiting yourself.
It is absurd to think a PR6 link to or from a yarn page has the same static value as a PR6 link to or from a pill page.
What in the world are you talking about? Supply and demand dictates price. Read what I wrote before you criticize.
PR is individual to pages only not the website right?
My doubt is after generating PR to the pages why Googlebot is not considering the pages?
Just checking here there's not some major upheaval or something going on, before I take my clothes off and walk into the sea.
I feel sick.
Is this a penalty?
so you have increased the number of inbound links--as far as Google is concerned.
What was offered on the powered by your sites pages.
White Label near duplicate content? - or just as a hosting type service where anything could appear?
Actually, company websites with products of the respective companies. Of course, the main website that has been vanished contains ALL company's products in an organized way, what we offered to members was just a way to advertise their own products on their own website provided by us.
Also, my main website has a few partner sites that share the same database with different design and targetting.
Are you saying that the content was all boilerplate content such as advertiser-supplied product descriptions? That certainly can be legitimate (just as co-op ads in weekly newspaper ad supplements are legitimate), but Google may not feel that the duplicate content needs to be offered in its search results.
In other words, the issue may not be whether pages are "white hat" or "black hat," but whether they meet Google's criteria for indexing.
Yes - but previously the page would be omitted from serps based on the search used - what people are reporting is a removal of the site - obliterated. (So say this company had Google site search function - no longer works - and someone reported that Adsense ads no longer work/targetted)
(So say this company had Google site search function - no longer works - and someone reported that Adsense ads no longer work/targetted)
Is there any evidence that the AdSense and Google Search teams communicate? (IMHO, it's always seemed that the AdSense folks haven't been too concerned with the program's impact on Google search results.)
I can think of one type of situation where AdSense and Google Search might whack a site at the same time: DMCA complaints, which presumably are reported to both teams for appropriate action.
Yep GG said welcome to ASA and new ASA ;)
