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Google Update Bourbon Part 3

         

Sweet Cognac

8:35 pm on May 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Continued From:

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My whole site has a new cache date of May 25th. Maybe once these other sites around me get recached, I won't hold such an honorable top position. But at least Google has found my pages worthy to sit in the Search again.:) It seems strange to look at the stats and see Google in there, after 6 months of just seeing Yahoo and MSN referrals.

My website has plenty of outbound links, but they are on relevant pages. The problem my site has always had, was a lack of "inbound links." I got tired of searching for people to link to me (with all the spammy sites around) and gave up. So my pages have acquired some links naturally I guess(and I'll bet I still don't have more than 30 inbound links for the whole site) Still have a PR4, which I've had since it disappeared in Nov.

[edited by: Brett_Tabke at 8:54 pm (utc) on May 27, 2005]

helleborine

3:33 am on May 31, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Only 3 DCs give me slightly different results for my company name, a search query delivering some truly weird results.

testy

3:46 am on May 31, 2005 (gmt 0)

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the update seems to be halted

d't know if it will be resumed or reversed.

Ledfish

3:59 am on May 31, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Based on what I'm hearing and seeing, for now at least, I'm going to leave everything just like it is.

I guess the way I view it is that since my site is pure and white as snow and since it is right for my visitors, it's not me that needs to make the change, it is Google that needs to make the change.

Sure, I could try to start chasing this algo change, but if I do, then I might have to do things that are not "what's best for my visitor" and frankly, why would I do that? If my site is good, because I'm not sole dependant on Google, people are going to find it and because it is designed for them, they should like it. If it doesn't rank high in Google, then it will leave people wondering what the hell is wrong with Google?

I know alot of people hate hearing the above, but as I see it, if you hate or are frustrated with Google, the best thing you can do to stick it to Google, is build a quality site, find other means of exposure and then leave Google having to chase you or answer to joe searcher for why good quality sites like yours don't rank well in their search engine.

Google couldn't care less about whether webmasters like the results. What Google cares about is that joe searcher likes the results. So the only thing that matters is joe searcher's opinion by way of search traffic. If joe searcher thinks the results stink, he will go somewhere else. Then and only then will Google care. Especially when Joe searcher starts favoring another SE and so all the PPC money starts leaving Google and going to that other SE.

annej

4:03 am on May 31, 2005 (gmt 0)

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oldpro,

I totally agree with you on the 'made for adsense' sites. I don't understand why Google allows them as it is hurting them with poor search results and is hurting searchers who can't find what they want. I can't see how it's good for Googles reputation and business to let they keep running adsense.

oldpro

4:09 am on May 31, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Dave,

"No one has been penalized until the update is completed. It takes Google a good deal longer to complete an update then it did pre-Florida. Seasoned folks take these fluctuations in stride and wait for the update to complete before any serious update analysis, site changes, or lamenting."

that what I said, but in different words...ie:

"We cannot even make the slightest analysis of the specifics of what google may be penalizing or rewarding as far as SEO because as each day passes there are wild swings in the results."

"My posts have been to try to calm them down...don't start messing with on or off page factors, because what might help today will hurt tommorrow."

Wouldn't you agree with those statements?

theBear

4:23 am on May 31, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Dave, Maybe they should have named this dance "gray hair" ;).

oldpro, yup like both you and Dave said too early.

The faster they go the furtherer behind they get (old DP maxim).

There is also one about a five pound sack and 10 pounds of .

Did you know that the new Intel 128 bit microprocessor can execute an infinate loop in one second?

Last but always true, GIGO.

Have a good night folks.

annej

5:28 am on May 31, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I agree there is no point in changing anything until we are sure this update is over. But I am beginning to suspect that links from spammy sites may be the cause in a site I have that has been hurt by Bourbon.

I don't think bad incoming links would hurt a page with a good many quality incoming links. But when inner pages that don't usually have incoming links are suddenly linked to by spammy generated links sites it might well be hurting.

I even found a site that has generated page titles and made it ahead of the legitimate pages in the serps with a search for those titles. This site itself is an ad for gambling.

nuthin

5:44 am on May 31, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Still missing a few domains in the current datacenters, but I know there laying around there somewhere... hopefully by the end they will return .. :)

not that worried just yet.

reseller

6:39 am on May 31, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hi Folks

I donīt see much changes on the DCs. For my own testing I see top 2-3 sites stable since yesterday. Little change within top 4-10 sites. To some extent resembles what we saw after allegra update completed.

Iīm afraid that we are looking at the begining of the end of Bourbon update.

Wish you all a geat day and top positions on the serps ;-)

Will Spencer

7:09 am on May 31, 2005 (gmt 0)

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No one has been penalized until the update is completed.

I've lost about $2,000 in revenue so far in this "update".

That feels like a penalty to me. ;-)

And, no, this is not on a scraper site. This is on a site which features technical information, 97% of which was written by me.

A site which, btw, is older than AdSense, older than Google and older than HTML. This "site" started out as a document which was shared on FTP sites. When the web came out, and I was finally convinced that the web was here to stay, I made the decision to HTMLize the whole thing. (Note: The domain name changed about a year ago.)

So, where it is possible that scraper sites were the target of this update, it seems that information-only sites were hit more directly.

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