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Google June 2002 Update

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8:00 pm on Jun 23, 2002 (gmt 0)

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link:www.yahoo.com on www.google.com = 623,000
link:www.yahoo.com on www2.google.com = 628,000
link:www.yahoo.com on www3.google.com = 628,000

link:www.webmasterworld.com on www.google.com = 3940
link:www.webmasterworld.com on www.google.com = 3990
link:www.webmasterworld.com on www.google.com = 3990

5:42 am on June 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I just noticed something strange.

Search for link:http://www.yoursite.com on w2.

The link count at the top of the page is twice the number of links actually shown for your site. I don't think this has anything to do with not showing low PR links. The number is twice the number of results displayed by the search.

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That's normal. Google only displays about half of your total links. I wish they would show them all.
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No. 24bit, what I am saying is these are the total links. I ran this search on two of my sites, and both times the number was twice of what is was showing in the SERP below.

At first I got excited, thinking I had a big boost in incoming links. Then I realized that the number was double. On one of my domains, I can count on one hand the number of incoming external links. Yet Google says I have 98 links (and its about a 50 page domain). I don't believe that 50 PR2 and PR1 pages suddenly found me in the last month.

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>I'd say the PR must be pretty well fixed at the beginning of the update, just not revealed until www begins to stabilize.

Beachboy, I don't start to believe it (or worry) until the backlinks from the toolbar match what comes up now with link: It's been different but right now I'm seeing the same for the first time today.

I'm getting some upward movement across the board, but what's happening with one site is downright depressing.

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Hey hey, congrats nutsandbolts.
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Well my site ranking has definately improved. But much to my surprise one of my client's site web pages are at No.4 & No.5 for a very competitive keyword. I think I need a pat on my back :)

Don

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After a 2 month absents.
I am now #1 in my main keywords in Google #3&#2.
No PR.
It ranks 0.
No ODP.
Wierd if you ask me.

Don - But I love wierd.

[edited by: Marcia at 7:04 am (utc) on June 24, 2002]
[edit reason] <We generally avoid our search terms> [/edit]

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Welcome to WW Don. Check out chiyo's post on this thread:

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Looks like the results are rolling onto www - I'm seeing some new sites appear on the sj datacenter.
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Is it possible that the dance is over? I am getting the same results on my sites for www, www2 and www3.

That was fast if it's over.

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the results are only just rolling onto the www datacenters - you have just been lucky to get one of the first couple of datacentres to hold the new index.

note: it looks like the zurich (zu) datacenter also has the new index.

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I am seeing varied results now... shucks.
7:06 am on June 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

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It ain't over. Put on a movie and chill.
7:10 am on June 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Gained a few positions, lost a couple. Really irritating that a site that stole code from me, is now positioned 2 above me for that respective KW. Source reveals it is definitely my script, altered just enough to fit their environment. They could have at least credited me, but of course that would be admitting to the theft!

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It looks like the Google update has been canceled or withdrawn. I am seeing same results across all three (www, www2, www3) and all of them are pre-Update old SERPs. They may have found issues and perhaps withdrawn the update. If true, this could be first time in years!
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>I am seeing same results across all three (www, www2, www3) and...

Hence the term "dance" :)

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Yep... I can verify the rollback. The caches on w2 and w3 has reverted back to the old pages for my site.

kaz

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Gone .... poooooof!!!!
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hmm, on www3 I don't have the #1 position any more but I'm there (#8). My site has a fairly new domain name (7 weeks) and wasn't listed after the last dance.

Same pages showing as #6 on www.

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Well, rjohara posted some good advice in this thread:
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So once I got a hint of what my positioning might be, I did as suggested and spent the day updating and optimizing for the next crawl. Since this one seems to have been rolled back, maybe my updates will be included sooner than I thought. ;) Ok, ok - at least I can wish for it.

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Hi all,

I'm pretty new to the search engine game, but does Googles update roll-back often? I was getting some great results and all of a sudden, they're gone :(

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Exactly keyplyr ;)

Thanks Brett! This update has been great for some of my new sites (high content, low fat, 93% less sugar) - let's see what sticks when this update comes back on WWW2 and WWW3

[edited by: nutsandbolts at 8:33 am (utc) on June 24, 2002]

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Well heck. Something bizarre with this update. Yo GoogleGuy, what's up with this strangeness?
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It looks like the Google update has been canceled or withdrawn. I am seeing same results across all three (www, www2, www3) and all of them are pre-Update old SERPs. They may have found issues and perhaps withdrawn the update. If true, this could be first time in years!
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Hmm.. I'm seeing the same thing.. the datacentres that were rolling over have reverted back to old SERPS.
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Yes, www2 and www3 have reverted back, is this a first?
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This sort of thing happens during the Google dance. Things *will* change. It is just a matter of when it gets to www.google.com.
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Everybody quit clicking on Larry :) and Scary :( so GoogleGuy can tally the votes.

hehehehe couldn't resist that one........

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June 24 Reutars-Agencies: STOP PRESS: GOOGLE CAUSES PANIC WORLDWIDE

In a shocking move today, Internet Search Engine Google updated its results and then changed them back again, causing mass panic and confusion amongst web marketing personel world wide, especially amongst free-loaders, soft liberal sites, American stock market sites and others who cant afford advertising.

A site on the Internet's popular World Wide Web that provides search services, Google provides the most free advertising of any other single company in world history, causing major dependency symptoms and and addictive checking behaviour amongst its users. In Chicago a man was snatched from certain death as a colleague grabbed his collar as he jumped from a 50 story building, yelling its OK! everthing is back to normal. In other offices world wide, corks are being replaced back into champagne bottles. An unnamed Google source was quoted as saying - "We thought we had updated but seeing LazerBubb hadnt confirmed it, we though we had made a mistake so had to revert to the previous results". A class action is being prepared by various webmaster groups citing Google for unreasonable prevarication and causing emotional distress.

Google remained tight-lipped when asked to confirm if they had received a telex from Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir, presently holidaying in Rome two days after resigning and then retracting his resignation one hour later in Kuala Lumpur. The telex allegedly had Mahathir suggesting that he didnt like the new items about him resigning, as the update had co-incided with his resignation and he didnt want to wait a whole lunar month for people to find out he hadn't. He also suggested that changing your mind was a great way to become even more popular.

Key google watcher Nuts and Bolts was last seen in a major downtowm street, disoriented and muttering wildly to himself, having discarded most of his clothing. (Agencies)

[edited by: chiyo at 8:30 am (utc) on June 24, 2002]

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chiyo :)
I just figured they tidied up before going to bed.
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