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It seems that a major google update is under way. I just checked www.google.com with the normal set of keywords that I generally use to monitor any changes and found what I believe is a major update. Now its back to original results. Its kinda on and off.
One of my site had a 50% increase in the number of pages crawled.
I hadn't much chance to check out whether the update spells good news or not, so lets keep our fingers crossed.
The changes are visible on 18.104.22.168
[edited by: ciml at 2:15 pm (utc) on Dec. 16, 2004]
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However, with major changes at foot in Yahoo and MSN search, I wonder whether Google is adding to its vulnerability with changes right now. Wouldn't do to have a pile of disgruntled webmasters adding MSN search to sites that have bombed in Google......
If your traffic is down 50-90% it should tell you one thing. Not that Google's broke. Not that Google hates you. It should tell you that you are far too reliant on a source of business that you have no control over.
If that 50-90% of traffic was truly valuabl˝e to you, why not figure out other ways of getting it to your website? If your website converts visitors into money why wouldn't you be doing this anyway?
It's like owning a shop with no store front and relying on one person to guide each and every customer to your door. The person starts showing those people to another shop instead of yours. What do you do? Sit in your shop moaning about him? Or kick yourself for depending so heavily on him for all your business?
true but if everyone is using the same store to find products you have to try every resource to make sure your products are on display
joined:Oct 10, 2004
joined:Oct 10, 2004
Yes, and it is a great relief to see the Yahoo update. Finally, sites that have been sandboxed by Google for almost a year now are getting quality traffic. With MSN about to unleash their engine, I look forward to yet another source of quality traffic.
For the most part, I have resisted paying big bucks for Adwords, and now I'm glad I stuck it out. The results Yahoo is providing for free are way better than I can achieve through Adwords in a couple of key areas for me. Once MSN rolls out their search, it will almost entirely remove my dependancy on Adsense, allowing be to go back to spending more money on design and development of quality websites.
Some webmaster has gotta be #1 on a SERP. And they'll likely be happy about the increased traffic, unless their site is totally irrelevant for that search.
Unfortunately, I'm seeing alot of this with this update. Sites selling "widgets for the west coast" are number 1 for "widgets for the east coast" but not even the in the top 1000 for "widgets for the west coast".
I've been through about 300 or so of our targeted keywords today and the results are so irrelevant I can't even laugh about it. It's not even that these sites are spamming intentionally, some of them are spam sites but are targeting completely different keywords!
I'm afraid I'd have to disagree with the "less importance to internal and more to external links" theory from the results I'm seeing. (I used Google and Yahoo to check backlinks!)
I never thought I would ever be persuaded to start using another search engine, but if these results last more than a week I'll have no choice. I can't even find non-commercial things now! - searching for data/history on WWII brought up gun-sellers .... I think Yahoo's results are awful, but right now Google's are MEGA-awful. I can't imagine users putting up with this either, where do you think they will go?
we've had some sites go from around position 4-10 move up to position 1 where they were before Sept 23rd, but other sites go down to the second page or much further such as position 387.
[edited by: needinfo at 1:08 pm (utc) on Dec. 19, 2004]
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But for the sheer size of this thread catching my attention, I wouldn't have known of the changes this month.
The limited areas for which I use an SE (as contrasted with bookmarks, direct type-in) are largely unchanged.
I suppose I'm just boring and don't tend to delve into the really competitive searches, and the site I mainly care about is right where G has placed it for some time.
I have examed german shopping portals after devaluations (the most important
sides of course).
I see big devaluations at the followings:
I don't see any devaluations:
idealo.de (although obvious duplicate spam with preisvergleich-idealo.de)
Of course I don't mean the main pages but the product sides and search
after product name.
The similarity theory could be right. At this one
devalued sides could
a) all product sides are too similarly > they need more "content"
b) these sides aren't very different from other sides (> Clones)
Of course there exists lots of other possibilties......
Therefore I hope that perhaps the one or other find out something important.
I saw an odd thing yesterday -- on a search for ultra competitive terms, a small note appeared at the bottom in grey text -- "Would you like to search for keyword variant" Its gone now -- more changes to come
This was brought up already and we were told to ignore
22.214.171.124 because the results are half of the other data centers, unfortunately.
One major thing Ive noticed in all of this rollback - huge database errors in Google where they show a URL that exists on one domain but is listed with a different domain - and doesnt exist on that other domain - just had it happen by seeing a huge increase in 404 requests from Google - after checking I noted that the domains were not related in any way, one belongs to a friend of mine in a different country on a completely different hosting companies servers and IPs A Class - and we verified that he was seeing the same thing with other peoples domains - and to check and verify, we also ensured that there were not link exchanges by any of the involved domains.
I posted on another board about it and it turns out its a rampant problem since Thursday - so Id have to say that there are some major database crosslinks and errors that are affecting a lot of people.
At first I thought it was a fix attempt by Google for the site scraping problem, but if it is they have definitely made some sort of programming glitch thats showing itself.